From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  4 18:10:48 2013
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 18:10:48 -0400
Subject: [mdlug]
 =?windows-1252?q?=5BAnnounce=5D_Reminder=3A_Next_Meeting_?=
 =?windows-1252?q?=96_April_9th=2C_2013?=
In-Reply-To: <515B6E4F.7070803@decafbad.net>
References: <515B6E4F.7070803@decafbad.net>
Message-ID: <515DFA68.50501@gmail.com>

I used to work for Mr. Kalwani at the GM High Performance Computing Center.

I definitely recommend to everyone to attend this presentation.  You can learn
a lot just being around him when he talks.


Craig Maloney wrote:
> Just a quick reminder for folks about the next meeting on April 9th, 2013.
>
> Be sure to click on the "I'll be there" button to let us know you'll be there.
>
>
> We meet at 6:30pm on the second Tuesday of each month at the Farmington Community Library
>
> **Big Data**
>
> Speaker: Sharan Kalwani
>
> These days one cannot swing a dead cat without hitting the buzz phrase "Big Data"! So what is all this hoopla (or Hadoop) all about really? Many years of technology advances in processing power, cheaper storage, faster I/O capabilities, cheaper
> memory chips, greater WiFi coverage, widespread mobility
> have *all* contributed to a vast explosion of information in all shapes and forms. The term "Big Data" first came into usage about 6+ years ago, when a major database scientist wrote about a new paradigm of science (sometimes also called the fourth
> pillar) - one which is based on letting the data tell us what
> was really going on, as opposed to guessing up a hypothesis/theory and then running with it. Of course, our beloved Linux platform was a key enabler in this and the Hadoop framework, which was born from an engineer's work, originally inspired by a
> couple of papers written by Google's team. This talk will dwell on many "Big D" (pun intended!) topics, history, what this means in technology terms and more importantly the impact on society.
>
> Sharan Kalwani is an HPC specialist with 20+ years of experience. Sharan has degrees in both Engineering and Computer Science. He has worked in IT architecture, systems deployment, software development, OS kernels, UNIX device driver writing,
> networking and compilers. He has also worked on
> several engineering, technical & scientific applications. Sharan has worked with several computing vendors such as Cray Research, Silicon Graphics Inc. (SGI), etc. He has managed several very large HPC sites with corporate organizations such as
> General Motors (GM) and research universities (KAUST). Sharan is a member of IEEE/Computer Society, USENIX, Michigan User Group and the ACM.
>
> **Elections**
>
> We will be holding our board elections for the 2013-2014 period. Nominations are currently open for those who would like to serve on the board. There are six spaces available for nominations, and the term runs through April 2014. Nominations for the
> board should be sent to board at mug.org by April 9th, 2013 at 6:30pm. Voting will commence at the meeting.
>
> You must be a current paid member in order to serve on the board or vote for the board. Please see the Membership page for details.
>
> **Book Swap**
>
> Bring your old and gently used books to trade and swap with other folks. Take a book or leave a book, or do both. You don?t need to bring anything to take something home. We?ll send out more information about how this will work on the Discussion
> mailing list.
> And we?ll also have our normal MUG meeting features: Jobs Looking For People, People Looking for Jobs, news and events, and much much more.
>
> URL: http://www.mug.org/2013/03/next-meeting-april-9th-2013/


From tony at bemushosting.com  Wed Apr 10 20:20:01 2013
From: tony at bemushosting.com (Tony Bemus)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:20:01 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] [Fwd: SMLR Live Episode 079 (4/13/2013) at 7pm]
Message-ID: <1365639601.8916.4.camel@bemus-tony>

Hey guys,  After the MDLUG meeting we will be having a live show at 7pm


-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Tony <show at smlr.us>
Reply-to: "Tony" <show at smlr.us>
To: show at smlr.us
Subject: SMLR Live Episode 079 (4/13/2013) at 7pm
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:13:54 -0400



Mat, Mary, and I will be having a live show on Sunday night  April 13th
at 7pm. Please join us in the IRC Channel freenode.net server channel
#smlr for chat. Watch the IRC channel and our Google+ page for the
Youtube video link. We will also be streaming audio at
http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming

Tony from SMLR
http://www.smlr.us



From tony at bemushosting.com  Wed Apr 10 20:27:53 2013
From: tony at bemushosting.com (Tony Bemus)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:27:53 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] April Meeting 4/13/2012 @
Message-ID: <1365640073.8916.8.camel@bemus-tony>

The  April 13th meeting will be at 12:30pm at Clawson Public Library, 
Is there a subject for the meeting?  Does anyone have any interest in
giving a presentation?


 Clawson Public Library, 
416 N. Main Street, Clawson, Michigan 48017. 
248.588.5500 phone | 248.588.3114 fax
www.clawson.lib.mi.us 



Tony Bemus


From dwood169 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 10 23:26:12 2013
From: dwood169 at gmail.com (David Wood)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:26:12 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] April Meeting 4/13/2012 @
In-Reply-To: <1365640073.8916.8.camel@bemus-tony>
References: <1365640073.8916.8.camel@bemus-tony>
Message-ID: <CADu5Q0tfvuNEC7uiaDOKOgCDW-0B1zHWvJdcp8=W_PxR+VbuvQ@mail.gmail.com>

Not a long topic, but I started writing a script for virtual machines that
run in ram disk.  I would love to go over how the script works and some
tuning options for linux based virtual machines if any one would be
interested.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com> wrote:

> The  April 13th meeting will be at 12:30pm at Clawson Public Library,
> Is there a subject for the meeting?  Does anyone have any interest in
> giving a presentation?
>
>
>  Clawson Public Library,
> 416 N. Main Street, Clawson, Michigan 48017.
> 248.588.5500 phone | 248.588.3114 fax
> www.clawson.lib.mi.us
>
>
>
> Tony Bemus
>
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From carl at carltm.com  Thu Apr 11 05:01:58 2013
From: carl at carltm.com (Carl T. Miller)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 05:01:58 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] April Meeting 4/13/2012 @
In-Reply-To: <CADu5Q0tfvuNEC7uiaDOKOgCDW-0B1zHWvJdcp8=W_PxR+VbuvQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1365640073.8916.8.camel@bemus-tony>
	<CADu5Q0tfvuNEC7uiaDOKOgCDW-0B1zHWvJdcp8=W_PxR+VbuvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51667C06.8040409@carltm.com>

Yes, I'd definitely be interested.

c


On 04/10/2013 11:26 PM, David Wood wrote:
> Not a long topic, but I started writing a script for virtual machines that
> run in ram disk.  I would love to go over how the script works and some
> tuning options for linux based virtual machines if any one would be
> interested.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com> wrote:
>
>> The  April 13th meeting will be at 12:30pm at Clawson Public Library,
>> Is there a subject for the meeting?  Does anyone have any interest in
>> giving a presentation?
>>
>>
>>   Clawson Public Library,
>> 416 N. Main Street, Clawson, Michigan 48017.
>> 248.588.5500 phone | 248.588.3114 fax
>> www.clawson.lib.mi.us
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony Bemus
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> mdlug mailing list
>> mdlug at mdlug.org
>> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>>
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>


From mat.enders at gmail.com  Thu Apr 11 05:51:46 2013
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (Mat Enders)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 05:51:46 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] April Meeting 4/13/2012 @
In-Reply-To: <51667C06.8040409@carltm.com>
References: <1365640073.8916.8.camel@bemus-tony>
	<CADu5Q0tfvuNEC7uiaDOKOgCDW-0B1zHWvJdcp8=W_PxR+VbuvQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<51667C06.8040409@carltm.com>
Message-ID: <CAO+61WiOr_Jbd-ZGOywGvH83+tLrfEgHfUCpYDfxvfLfqjAe2g@mail.gmail.com>

Vote number two.  Let's hear it.


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Carl T. Miller <carl at carltm.com> wrote:

> Yes, I'd definitely be interested.
>
> c
>
>
>
> On 04/10/2013 11:26 PM, David Wood wrote:
>
>> Not a long topic, but I started writing a script for virtual machines that
>> run in ram disk.  I would love to go over how the script works and some
>> tuning options for linux based virtual machines if any one would be
>> interested.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  The  April 13th meeting will be at 12:30pm at Clawson Public Library,
>>> Is there a subject for the meeting?  Does anyone have any interest in
>>> giving a presentation?
>>>
>>>
>>>   Clawson Public Library,
>>> 416 N. Main Street, Clawson, Michigan 48017.
>>> 248.588.5500 phone | 248.588.3114 fax
>>> www.clawson.lib.mi.us
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony Bemus
>>>
>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>> mdlug mailing list
>>> mdlug at mdlug.org
>>> http://mdlug.org/mailman/**listinfo/mdlug<http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug>
>>>
>>>  ______________________________**_________________
>> mdlug mailing list
>> mdlug at mdlug.org
>> http://mdlug.org/mailman/**listinfo/mdlug<http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug>
>>
>>
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>



-- 
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"Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
--Jeremy Allison

From gib at juno.com  Thu Apr 11 08:47:09 2013
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:47:09 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] [Fwd: SMLR Live Episode 079 (4/13/2013) at 7pm]
Message-ID: <20130411.084709.27504.3@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>

That sounds great.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com>
To: MDLUG's Main discussion list <mdlug at mdlug.org>
Subject: [mdlug] [Fwd: SMLR Live Episode 079 (4/13/2013) at 7pm]
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:20:01 -0400

Hey guys,  After the MDLUG meeting we will be having a live show at 7pm


-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Tony <show at smlr.us>
Reply-to: "Tony" <show at smlr.us>
To: show at smlr.us
Subject: SMLR Live Episode 079 (4/13/2013) at 7pm
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:13:54 -0400



Mat, Mary, and I will be having a live show on Sunday night  April 13th
at 7pm. Please join us in the IRC Channel freenode.net server channel
#smlr for chat. Watch the IRC channel and our Google+ page for the
Youtube video link. We will also be streaming audio at
http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming

Tony from SMLR
http://www.smlr.us


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From gib at juno.com  Thu Apr 11 08:50:23 2013
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:50:23 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] April Meeting 4/13/2012 @
Message-ID: <20130411.085023.27504.4@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>

We talkdaut doing something related to Raspberry PI again.  I wonder if we could do a bit about discovering things to do with the Raspberry PI.  I have the bluetooth connector I got from you.  Could we see if we could use that to connect the Raspberry PI to other devices?  This would be more of a working effort rather than a presentation.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com>
To: MDLUG's Main discussion list <mdlug at mdlug.org>
Subject: [mdlug] April Meeting 4/13/2012 @
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:27:53 -0400

The  April 13th meeting will be at 12:30pm at Clawson Public Library, 
Is there a subject for the meeting?  Does anyone have any interest in
giving a presentation?


Clawson Public Library, 
416 N. Main Street, Clawson, Michigan 48017. 
248.588.5500 phone | 248.588.3114 fax
www.clawson.lib.mi.us 



Tony Bemus

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From gib at juno.com  Thu Apr 11 08:51:14 2013
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:51:14 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] April Meeting 4/13/2012 @
Message-ID: <20130411.085114.27504.5@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>

I'd like to see that

---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Wood <dwood169 at gmail.com>
To: "MDLUG's Main discussion list" <mdlug at mdlug.org>
Subject: Re: [mdlug] April Meeting 4/13/2012 @
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:26:12 -0400

Not a long topic, but I started writing a script for virtual machines that
run in ram disk.  I would love to go over how the script works and some
tuning options for linux based virtual machines if any one would be
interested.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com> wrote:

> The  April 13th meeting will be at 12:30pm at Clawson Public Library,
> Is there a subject for the meeting?  Does anyone have any interest in
> giving a presentation?
>
>
>  Clawson Public Library,
> 416 N. Main Street, Clawson, Michigan 48017.
> 248.588.5500 phone | 248.588.3114 fax
> www.clawson.lib.mi.us
>
>
>
> Tony Bemus
>
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>
_______________________________________________
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____________________________________________________________
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From fulner at gmail.com  Thu Apr 11 10:30:11 2013
From: fulner at gmail.com (Robert Jim Fulner)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:30:11 +0000
Subject: [mdlug] Saturday Meeting Location
Message-ID: <912175019-1365690612-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1717129744-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry>

What is the location for the meeting on Saturday? The calendar that syncs with my phone still says Inkster.


Jim Fulner
Sent from my SmartPhone, please dismiss not-so-smart typos

From mat.enders at gmail.com  Thu Apr 11 10:53:20 2013
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (Mat Enders)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:53:20 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Saturday Meeting Location
In-Reply-To: <912175019-1365690612-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1717129744-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry>
References: <912175019-1365690612-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1717129744-@b11.c10.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <CAO+61WjuFOVC460qFFLVoNL-fszY_8oyA50rd31JnF_0c3kwDQ@mail.gmail.com>

Clawson Public Library,
416 N. Main Street, Clawson, Michigan 48017.


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com>wrote:

> What is the location for the meeting on Saturday? The calendar that syncs
> with my phone still says Inkster.
>
>
> Jim Fulner
> Sent from my SmartPhone, please dismiss not-so-smart typos
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>



-- 
Mathew E. Enders

"Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
--Jeremy Allison

From gib at juno.com  Thu Apr 11 17:38:54 2013
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:38:54 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] Saturday Meeting Location
Message-ID: <20130411.173854.22294.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>

It looks like I'll be late to the meeting.  I may have a problem getting the catering stuff too.  Busy, busy.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com>
To: fulner at gmail.com, "MDLUG's Main discussion list" <mdlug at mdlug.org>
Subject: Re: [mdlug] Saturday Meeting Location
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:53:20 -0400

Clawson Public Library,
416 N. Main Street, Clawson, Michigan 48017.


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com>wrote:

> What is the location for the meeting on Saturday? The calendar that syncs
> with my phone still says Inkster.
>
>
> Jim Fulner
> Sent from my SmartPhone, please dismiss not-so-smart typos
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>



-- 
Mathew E. Enders

"Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
--Jeremy Allison
_______________________________________________
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From davidl at lmert.com  Thu Apr 11 19:20:48 2013
From: davidl at lmert.com (David Lee Lambert)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:20:48 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Linksys / TomatoUSB problem
Message-ID: <CAKJLuP_HzSY0j1LCMPhX5Z3umouyjc8oG_6-fhWpETmee95jow@mail.gmail.com>

Just this week I picked up a Linksys WRT54GL.  However,  I'm worried I may
have bricked it already,  trying to put beta TomatoUSB on it.

Stock Linksys firmware looked all right,  Tomato looked better but was
still kernel 2.4 hence didn't seem to have IPv6 support (but maybe there's
a way to build my own image and compile that in?).  I tried a TomatoUSB
beta image, and it seems to have gone zombie on me.  More details at
http://tomatousb.org/forum/t-643392/wrt54gl-recover-from-failed-flash .

Any hints?

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Ph# (616)676-7375
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From andrew.zimmer at comcast.net  Thu Apr 11 22:04:24 2013
From: andrew.zimmer at comcast.net (A. Zimmer)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:04:24 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
Message-ID: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>

Hello,

Recently, a strange entry has been occasionally appearing in my kernel
log.  I cannot relate it to any activity that I am doing.  Here is the
entry:

kernel: UDP: bad checksum. From 196.21.79.50:53 to 192.168.0.4:2657 ulen 279

The only thing that changes is the port number on the receiving side
(in this case 2657) and, as best as I can recall, also the originating
address.

My machines are all connected to a router which is in turn connected
to a cable modem.  The address 192.168.0.4 refers not to my Linux
machine but to another computer on my home network which is usually
switched off.

A whois lookup of 196.21.76.50 gives a location in South Africa.

I do not engage in any kind of network activity beyond Internet
surfing and email, so why should this strange message be appearing
in my kernel log?


From mat.enders at gmail.com  Thu Apr 11 22:14:14 2013
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (Mat Enders)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:14:14 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAO+61Wh1er+3wxAY8mA0_xYh2fXXCYbVq3agGL6V05B3D1xNNw@mail.gmail.com>

Is said machine a Windows boxen.


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:04 PM, A. Zimmer <andrew.zimmer at comcast.net>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Recently, a strange entry has been occasionally appearing in my kernel
> log.  I cannot relate it to any activity that I am doing.  Here is the
> entry:
>
> kernel: UDP: bad checksum. From 196.21.79.50:53 to 192.168.0.4:2657 ulen
> 279
>
> The only thing that changes is the port number on the receiving side
> (in this case 2657) and, as best as I can recall, also the originating
> address.
>
> My machines are all connected to a router which is in turn connected
> to a cable modem.  The address 192.168.0.4 refers not to my Linux
> machine but to another computer on my home network which is usually
> switched off.
>
> A whois lookup of 196.21.76.50 gives a location in South Africa.
>
> I do not engage in any kind of network activity beyond Internet
> surfing and email, so why should this strange message be appearing
> in my kernel log?
>
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>



-- 
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"Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
--Jeremy Allison

From andrew.zimmer at comcast.net  Thu Apr 11 22:31:23 2013
From: andrew.zimmer at comcast.net (A. Zimmer)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:31:23 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <CAO+61Wh1er+3wxAY8mA0_xYh2fXXCYbVq3agGL6V05B3D1xNNw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61Wh1er+3wxAY8mA0_xYh2fXXCYbVq3agGL6V05B3D1xNNw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130411223123.643ffe72fdca29e19a212237@comcast.net>

On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:14:14 -0400
Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is said machine a Windows boxen.
> 

Yes, the other machine runs a Windows system.

But the Windows machine currently connects with the router through dhcp and its
address always is different from 192.168.0.4.  The address 192.168.0.4
has not been used by that machine for a long time (at least a year) and I have
only been seeing that strange log entry for less than a month.

I have not seen the log entry for a few days but, after just checking, I got
one again today:

kernel: UDP: bad checksum. From 196.21.79.50:53 to 192.168.0.4:14172 ulen 279

In this case, everything is the same except for the receiving port 14172.


From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 11 22:46:05 2013
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:46:05 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <20130411223123.643ffe72fdca29e19a212237@comcast.net>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61Wh1er+3wxAY8mA0_xYh2fXXCYbVq3agGL6V05B3D1xNNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130411223123.643ffe72fdca29e19a212237@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5167756D.8030109@gmail.com>

A. Zimmer wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:14:14 -0400
> Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is said machine a Windows boxen.
>>
>
> Yes, the other machine runs a Windows system.
>
> But the Windows machine currently connects with the router through dhcp and its
> address always is different from 192.168.0.4.  The address 192.168.0.4
> has not been used by that machine for a long time (at least a year) and I have
> only been seeing that strange log entry for less than a month.
>
> I have not seen the log entry for a few days but, after just checking, I got
> one again today:
>
> kernel: UDP: bad checksum. From 196.21.79.50:53 to 192.168.0.4:14172 ulen 279
>
> In this case, everything is the same except for the receiving port 14172.
>

Sounds like the other machine is sending bad packets.



From andrew.zimmer at comcast.net  Thu Apr 11 23:11:21 2013
From: andrew.zimmer at comcast.net (A. Zimmer)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:11:21 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <5167756D.8030109@gmail.com>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:46:05 -0400
Aaron Kulkis <akulkis00 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Sounds like the other machine is sending bad packets.
> 

I don't know a lot about networking (which is why I'm asking here)
but UDP port 53 is for DNS related queries.  It seems that a DNS
server (196.21.79.50) is responding to a request from 192.168.0.4
with a bad packet.  But the address 192.168.0.4 does not exist
on my network.  The only machine that is connected is 192.168.0.2,
which is my Linux machine.  (My Windows box is shut off and when
connected has a different address.)

IOW, if my machine is sending DNS queries (and using pdnsd it is
sending them) then the address for any responses from a DNS server
should be 192.168.0.2.  Where us this 192.168.0.4 coming from?


From jjn at nuge.com  Fri Apr 12 05:03:08 2013
From: jjn at nuge.com (Jay Nugent)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 05:03:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <20130411231121.807ee1ec1a440b6a73b10aa9@comcast.net>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
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Greetings,

On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, A. Zimmer wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:46:05 -0400
> Aaron Kulkis <akulkis00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Sounds like the other machine is sending bad packets.
>>
>
> I don't know a lot about networking (which is why I'm asking here)
> but UDP port 53 is for DNS related queries.  It seems that a DNS
> server (196.21.79.50) is responding to a request from 192.168.0.4
> with a bad packet.  But the address 192.168.0.4 does not exist
> on my network.  The only machine that is connected is 192.168.0.2,
> which is my Linux machine.  (My Windows box is shut off and when
> connected has a different address.)
>
> IOW, if my machine is sending DNS queries (and using pdnsd it is
> sending them) then the address for any responses from a DNS server
> should be 192.168.0.2.  Where us this 192.168.0.4 coming from?

    Nothing happens in IP atop 802.3 ethernet without ARP.  Check your arp 
table to determine the MAC address of the ethernet card that sent the 
packet.

       --- Jay

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From abehnke at gmail.com  Fri Apr 12 06:57:50 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:57:50 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1304120501130.25141@server1.nuge.com>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61Wh1er+3wxAY8mA0_xYh2fXXCYbVq3agGL6V05B3D1xNNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130411223123.643ffe72fdca29e19a212237@comcast.net>
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i'm thinking the window machine has been comprised and south africa is
poking around your internal network. the easiest fix/test is to
reformat/reinstall the windows box and see what happens.

btw, you should log into your router, disable telnet (pass through
protocols) if it's enabled and change the router logons username/password
too.


but i wear the tin foil hat around here...  :p


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Jay Nugent <jjn at nuge.com> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, A. Zimmer wrote:
>
>  On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:46:05 -0400
>> Aaron Kulkis <akulkis00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Sounds like the other machine is sending bad packets.
>>>
>>>
>> I don't know a lot about networking (which is why I'm asking here)
>> but UDP port 53 is for DNS related queries.  It seems that a DNS
>> server (196.21.79.50) is responding to a request from 192.168.0.4
>> with a bad packet.  But the address 192.168.0.4 does not exist
>> on my network.  The only machine that is connected is 192.168.0.2,
>> which is my Linux machine.  (My Windows box is shut off and when
>> connected has a different address.)
>>
>> IOW, if my machine is sending DNS queries (and using pdnsd it is
>> sending them) then the address for any responses from a DNS server
>> should be 192.168.0.2.  Where us this 192.168.0.4 coming from?
>>
>
>    Nothing happens in IP atop 802.3 ethernet without ARP.  Check your arp
> table to determine the MAC address of the ethernet card that sent the
> packet.
>
>       --- Jay
>
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> | ISP Monitoring [www.ispmonitor.org] ISP & Modem Performance Monitoring |
> +-----------------------------**------------------------------**
> -------------+
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From awilliam at whitemice.org  Fri Apr 12 07:32:33 2013
From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:32:33 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1304120501130.25141@server1.nuge.com>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61Wh1er+3wxAY8mA0_xYh2fXXCYbVq3agGL6V05B3D1xNNw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<alpine.LRH.2.02.1304120501130.25141@server1.nuge.com>
Message-ID: <1365766353.324.12.camel@workstation.wmmi.net>

On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 05:03 -0400, Jay Nugent wrote: 
> > I don't know a lot about networking (which is why I'm asking here)
> > but UDP port 53 is for DNS related queries.  It seems that a DNS
> > server (196.21.79.50) is responding to a request from 192.168.0.4
> > with a bad packet.  But the address 192.168.0.4 does not exist
> > on my network.  The only machine that is connected is 192.168.0.2,
> > which is my Linux machine.  (My Windows box is shut off and when
> > connected has a different address.)
> > IOW, if my machine is sending DNS queries (and using pdnsd it is
> > sending them) then the address for any responses from a DNS server
> > should be 192.168.0.2.  Where us this 192.168.0.4 coming from?

Are you relying upon NAT to be a security feature?  Because it is *not*
one;  it is a hack to work around a brokenness of a broken protocol
[IPv4].

"My machines are all connected to a router"

By "router" I assume you mean "firewall".  If so - what are the rules
applied by that firewall+router?  If you see traffic uncorrelated to a
connection you created from anything other than 192.168/16 or 169.254/16
then it is leaking [NAT is not a security feature] or another box on
your network has been compromised and is forging addresses - the
responses to which will leak back out of your network [NAT is not a
security feature] to whomever the intended recipient is [NAT is not a
security feature].

Also each and every box on your internal network should firewall ingress
& egress; do not allow originating connections to a workstation that is
not on a privately numbered subnet [at least for IPv4 traffic; IPv6
doesn't really have private subnets - thank the PTBs!].

It would be interesting to just capture some traffic using Wireshark for
a few minutes and see what you see.  Taking a look at network traffic
with Wireshark every know and then is a good idea anyway,  sometimes you
see things pop-up - like a new printer going ape and constantly spraying
the network with zeroconf notifications, etc...  Wireshark provides a
way to view network traffic that is relatively newbie friendly.

>  Nothing happens in IP atop 802.3 ethernet without ARP.  Check your arp 
> table to determine the MAC address of the ethernet card that sent the 
> packet.

Dumping the ARP table is always a first-ish step in running down weird
ethernet traffic.  

If you see "incomplete" addresses in the ARP then possibly all this is
just a bad cable, switch port, or dieing NIC - it can happen, just a few
bits get twiddled and you can see traffic that never actually came from
somewhere.  But on modern hardware it is extremely rare.

But not that this is IPv4 specific, it stops working with IPv6.


From andrew.zimmer at comcast.net  Fri Apr 12 10:37:53 2013
From: andrew.zimmer at comcast.net (A. Zimmer)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:37:53 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <CAM+u8rKugU6bNpFazwuTU=FV0ATrcQpXq4ZvA4TCFZ0HRxppww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
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On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:57:50 -0400
Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:

> i'm thinking the window machine has been comprised and south africa is
> poking around your internal network. the easiest fix/test is to
> reformat/reinstall the windows box and see what happens.
> 

That may seem a reasonable suspicion, but I don't think my Windows machine
is compromised.

I suspect the cause is the pdnsd utility on my Linux machine.

Now that I remember correctly, I only set up Windows on that machine
recently and it has never connected to the network with an address
of 192.168.0.4.  In fact the address 192.168.0.4 does not exist anywhere
on my local network.

When these log messages occur, my Linux machine is the only machine
on the network and its address is 192.168.0.2.  The question is: Why 
is it accepting packets for 192.168.0.4?  Since the log message is
from the Linux kernel, the packet has been 

I suspect that it may be the pdnsd utility, which I use to bypass
the DNS server of my ISP (Comcast).  Pdnsd allows my Linux machine
to act as a DNS server for itself and also provides DNS caching.

The only place where 192.168.0.4 can be found is within certain config
files on my Linux machine that were set up a long time ago and
that no longer reflect the state of the network.  Since these messages
involve port 53, I suspect, although I can't see how, that pdnsd
is the ultimate cause.

For now, I will remove the reference to 192.168.0.4 from my config
files and delete the local pdnsd cache.  Hopefully, this will solve
the issue.


From mat.enders at gmail.com  Fri Apr 12 10:53:37 2013
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (Mat Enders)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:53:37 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <20130412103753.febcac8f5d94f0cc3e65d05e@comcast.net>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
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	<20130412103753.febcac8f5d94f0cc3e65d05e@comcast.net>
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Why are you using a service to o this you can set whatever you want to use
as your DNS in /etc/resolv.conf.  But then can not use DHCP as it will
overwrite your resolv.conf file so just set a staic address on your linux
machine.  If your DHCP server is not sophisticated enough to do that just
set the highest address your DHCP server gives out and it is most likely
that nothing else will ever be assigned this address.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:37 AM, A. Zimmer <andrew.zimmer at comcast.net>wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:57:50 -0400
> Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > i'm thinking the window machine has been comprised and south africa is
> > poking around your internal network. the easiest fix/test is to
> > reformat/reinstall the windows box and see what happens.
> >
>
> That may seem a reasonable suspicion, but I don't think my Windows machine
> is compromised.
>
> I suspect the cause is the pdnsd utility on my Linux machine.
>
> Now that I remember correctly, I only set up Windows on that machine
> recently and it has never connected to the network with an address
> of 192.168.0.4.  In fact the address 192.168.0.4 does not exist anywhere
> on my local network.
>
> When these log messages occur, my Linux machine is the only machine
> on the network and its address is 192.168.0.2.  The question is: Why
> is it accepting packets for 192.168.0.4?  Since the log message is
> from the Linux kernel, the packet has been
>
> I suspect that it may be the pdnsd utility, which I use to bypass
> the DNS server of my ISP (Comcast).  Pdnsd allows my Linux machine
> to act as a DNS server for itself and also provides DNS caching.
>
> The only place where 192.168.0.4 can be found is within certain config
> files on my Linux machine that were set up a long time ago and
> that no longer reflect the state of the network.  Since these messages
> involve port 53, I suspect, although I can't see how, that pdnsd
> is the ultimate cause.
>
> For now, I will remove the reference to 192.168.0.4 from my config
> files and delete the local pdnsd cache.  Hopefully, this will solve
> the issue.
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



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"Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
--Jeremy Allison

From andrew.zimmer at comcast.net  Fri Apr 12 11:23:54 2013
From: andrew.zimmer at comcast.net (A. Zimmer)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:23:54 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <CAO+61WiNAgk1JLcrbxJ2Yj35yAoi=zxuRAZhVL=vV2PAO-Owcw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<20130411223123.643ffe72fdca29e19a212237@comcast.net>
	<5167756D.8030109@gmail.com>
	<20130411231121.807ee1ec1a440b6a73b10aa9@comcast.net>
	<alpine.LRH.2.02.1304120501130.25141@server1.nuge.com>
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	<20130412103753.febcac8f5d94f0cc3e65d05e@comcast.net>
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On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:53:37 -0400
Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why are you using a service to o this you can set whatever you want to use
> as your DNS in /etc/resolv.conf.

I use 127.0.0.1 as my nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf.  The pdnsd service
allows me to bypass my ISP's nameserver and to use my own machine.  I am
not going to allow Comcast to create a record of every DNS request that
I make.  You can call it paranoia but pdnsd is available and it is very simple,
so why not.

DHCP is not necessary because I use a static address. 

This is not complex network.  I just need to connect my home machines
to the Internet.


From mat.enders at gmail.com  Fri Apr 12 12:12:56 2013
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (Mat Enders)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:12:56 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <20130412112354.2d764e5a0577444897819821@comcast.net>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61Wh1er+3wxAY8mA0_xYh2fXXCYbVq3agGL6V05B3D1xNNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130411223123.643ffe72fdca29e19a212237@comcast.net>
	<5167756D.8030109@gmail.com>
	<20130411231121.807ee1ec1a440b6a73b10aa9@comcast.net>
	<alpine.LRH.2.02.1304120501130.25141@server1.nuge.com>
	<CAM+u8rKugU6bNpFazwuTU=FV0ATrcQpXq4ZvA4TCFZ0HRxppww@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130412103753.febcac8f5d94f0cc3e65d05e@comcast.net>
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Then if your already using static addresses just use open DNS servers or
Googles public DNS servers for your DNS.

/etc/resovlv.conf

search localhost.localhost
# Open DNS servers
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 208.67.220.220
# Google DNS servers
nameserver 8.8.8.8
nameserver 8.8.4.4



On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:23 AM, A. Zimmer <andrew.zimmer at comcast.net>wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:53:37 -0400
> Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Why are you using a service to o this you can set whatever you want to
> use
> > as your DNS in /etc/resolv.conf.
>
> I use 127.0.0.1 as my nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf.  The pdnsd service
> allows me to bypass my ISP's nameserver and to use my own machine.  I am
> not going to allow Comcast to create a record of every DNS request that
> I make.  You can call it paranoia but pdnsd is available and it is very
> simple,
> so why not.
>
> DHCP is not necessary because I use a static address.
>
> This is not complex network.  I just need to connect my home machines
> to the Internet.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
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-- 
Mathew E. Enders

"Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
--Jeremy Allison

From andrew.zimmer at comcast.net  Fri Apr 12 12:41:47 2013
From: andrew.zimmer at comcast.net (A. Zimmer)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:41:47 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <CAO+61WjNPkje_x+jeemdnHnJtGZJtPPBD8Qq+oOppO9QQOQgDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
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	<alpine.LRH.2.02.1304120501130.25141@server1.nuge.com>
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	<20130412103753.febcac8f5d94f0cc3e65d05e@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <20130412124147.74dd433a0096a95afa600b4f@comcast.net>

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:12:56 -0400
Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com> wrote:

> Then if your already using static addresses just use open DNS servers or
> Googles public DNS servers for your DNS.
> 

I could do that, but pdnsd also offers caching to avoid repetitive lookups.

Pdnsd is similar to a local installation of bind, but is much, much simpler
to install and configure, and it offers persistent caching which bind does
not.


From awilliam at whitemice.org  Fri Apr 12 13:50:31 2013
From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:50:31 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <CAO+61WjNPkje_x+jeemdnHnJtGZJtPPBD8Qq+oOppO9QQOQgDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61Wh1er+3wxAY8mA0_xYh2fXXCYbVq3agGL6V05B3D1xNNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130411223123.643ffe72fdca29e19a212237@comcast.net>
	<5167756D.8030109@gmail.com>
	<20130411231121.807ee1ec1a440b6a73b10aa9@comcast.net>
	<alpine.LRH.2.02.1304120501130.25141@server1.nuge.com>
	<CAM+u8rKugU6bNpFazwuTU=FV0ATrcQpXq4ZvA4TCFZ0HRxppww@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130412103753.febcac8f5d94f0cc3e65d05e@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61WiNAgk1JLcrbxJ2Yj35yAoi=zxuRAZhVL=vV2PAO-Owcw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130412112354.2d764e5a0577444897819821@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61WjNPkje_x+jeemdnHnJtGZJtPPBD8Qq+oOppO9QQOQgDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1365789031.6677.3.camel@linux-86wr.site>

On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 12:12 -0400, Mat Enders wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:23 AM, A. Zimmer <andrew.zimmer at comcast.net>wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:53:37 -0400
> > Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Why are you using a service to o this you can set whatever you want t
> > use as your DNS in /etc/resolv.conf.
> > I use 127.0.0.1 as my nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf.  The pdnsd service
> > allows me to bypass my ISP's nameserver and to use my own machine.  I am
> > not going to allow Comcast to create a record of every DNS request that
> > I make.  You can call it paranoia but pdnsd is available and it is very
> > simple, so why not.

+1

I run a local named; for some of the same reasons plus local DNS is just
*WAY* faster.  

Providing a caching DNS server is just brain-dead easy,  consumes
extremely few resources, gives you additional privacy/confidentiality,
and better performance.  Win all around.

-- 
Adam Tauno Williams  GPG D95ED383
Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA


From jjn at nuge.com  Fri Apr 12 18:14:43 2013
From: jjn at nuge.com (Jay Nugent)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:14:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [mdlug] Strange Log Entry
In-Reply-To: <1365789031.6677.3.camel@linux-86wr.site>
References: <20130411220424.7028d914da72c0e3dd1af0a9@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61Wh1er+3wxAY8mA0_xYh2fXXCYbVq3agGL6V05B3D1xNNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130411223123.643ffe72fdca29e19a212237@comcast.net>
	<5167756D.8030109@gmail.com>
	<20130411231121.807ee1ec1a440b6a73b10aa9@comcast.net>
	<alpine.LRH.2.02.1304120501130.25141@server1.nuge.com>
	<CAM+u8rKugU6bNpFazwuTU=FV0ATrcQpXq4ZvA4TCFZ0HRxppww@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130412103753.febcac8f5d94f0cc3e65d05e@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61WiNAgk1JLcrbxJ2Yj35yAoi=zxuRAZhVL=vV2PAO-Owcw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130412112354.2d764e5a0577444897819821@comcast.net>
	<CAO+61WjNPkje_x+jeemdnHnJtGZJtPPBD8Qq+oOppO9QQOQgDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1365789031.6677.3.camel@linux-86wr.site>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1304121809010.25141@server1.nuge.com>

Greetings,

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

> On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 12:12 -0400, Mat Enders wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:23 AM, A. Zimmer <andrew.zimmer at comcast.net>wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:53:37 -0400
>>> Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Why are you using a service to o this you can set whatever you want t
>>> use as your DNS in /etc/resolv.conf.
>>> I use 127.0.0.1 as my nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf.  The pdnsd service
>>> allows me to bypass my ISP's nameserver and to use my own machine.  I am
>>> not going to allow Comcast to create a record of every DNS request that
>>> I make.  You can call it paranoia but pdnsd is available and it is very
>>> simple, so why not.
>
> +1
>
> I run a local named; for some of the same reasons plus local DNS is just
> *WAY* faster.
>
> Providing a caching DNS server is just brain-dead easy,  consumes
> extremely few resources, gives you additional privacy/confidentiality,
> and better performance.  Win all around.

    So long as you *DON'T* become an open resolver to the Internet (i.e. 
others on the Internet can use your caching DNS server).  That leads to an 
ongoing problem called "DNS Amplification" - a form of DNS spam that has 
many ISP's and network providers concerned.

    Internet BCP's (Best Common Practices) should be followed.  Be a good 
net citizen :)

    See:   openresolverproject.org


       --- Jay

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From mat.enders at gmail.com  Sat Apr 13 11:54:35 2013
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (Mat Enders)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:54:35 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Meeting location
Message-ID: <CAO+61WihBC6A9S97J7dOYGRwRvuVKjd_QPHXf93yGUME_jwWcQ@mail.gmail.com>

The library is having a book sale in the big room.  We are in the small
room in the back corner.

From tony at bemushosting.com  Sat Apr 13 19:15:46 2013
From: tony at bemushosting.com (Tony Bemus)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:15:46 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] [Fwd: SMLR Live Episode 079 (4/13/2013) at 7pm]
In-Reply-To: <1365639601.8916.4.camel@bemus-tony>
References: <1365639601.8916.4.camel@bemus-tony>
Message-ID: <1365894946.2772.0.camel@tony-laptop>

SMLR is live now!  Video:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB0VMOf9Kw53CMh9bl4X5nA?v=lqJjdPX9pSY ,
Audio: http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming



On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 20:20 -0400, Tony Bemus wrote:
-- 
Tony Bemus
Bemus Hosting and Computer Repair
http://www.bemushosting.com



> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Tony <show at smlr.us>
> Reply-to: "Tony" <show at smlr.us>
> To: show at smlr.us
> Subject: SMLR Live Episode 079 (4/13/2013) at 7pm
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:13:54 -0400
> 
> 
> 
> Mat, Mary, and I will be having a live show on Sunday night  April 13th
> at 7pm. Please join us in the IRC Channel freenode.net server channel
> #smlr for chat. Watch the IRC channel and our Google+ page for the
> Youtube video link. We will also be streaming audio at
> http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming
> 
> Tony from SMLR
> http://www.smlr.us
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug


From abehnke at gmail.com  Sat Apr 13 19:19:00 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:19:00 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
Message-ID: <CAM+u8r+sx5AQh41GqE6w4LCUpeLxUeUdqpKEBPaSBM3V_YTxOg@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have advise on adding a script to run after boot. I'm making
this script to play videos on a loop. I made a simple script and it runs
great in terminal, but adding it to ubuntu sessions/startup does do
anything. Adding it to rc.local seems to fail on launching mplayer before
the system if fully booted.

From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Sat Apr 13 19:32:32 2013
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:32:32 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <CAM+u8r+sx5AQh41GqE6w4LCUpeLxUeUdqpKEBPaSBM3V_YTxOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+u8r+sx5AQh41GqE6w4LCUpeLxUeUdqpKEBPaSBM3V_YTxOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD39dTaKDu7Mehaz-W-MDL05_-iaNLymS2pG8oQXs1tbp4aJLw@mail.gmail.com>

You need an XDG/fdo menu entry (*.desktop) file in the ~/.config/autostart
directory.

http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html

Create a file named "myvideoscript.desktop" or similar and add to it:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Icon=video-display
Name=Autoplay videos
Comment=Start videos
Exec=/usr/local/bin/myscript
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Video;
StartupNotify=false

Put your script in /usr/local/bin and make it executable.  Should start
automatically at login.  If it doesn't then check ~/.xsession-errors for
error messages.


On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have advise on adding a script to run after boot. I'm making
> this script to play videos on a loop. I made a simple script and it runs
> great in terminal, but adding it to ubuntu sessions/startup does do
> anything. Adding it to rc.local seems to fail on launching mplayer before
> the system if fully booted.
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Sat Apr 13 19:33:59 2013
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:33:59 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <CAD39dTaKDu7Mehaz-W-MDL05_-iaNLymS2pG8oQXs1tbp4aJLw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+u8r+sx5AQh41GqE6w4LCUpeLxUeUdqpKEBPaSBM3V_YTxOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaKDu7Mehaz-W-MDL05_-iaNLymS2pG8oQXs1tbp4aJLw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD39dTYw_H=au6G4F3jOE0OvU=8wKkCwdqxSKXimKKwz7rFkkg@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, the spec link was for menu structures, not menu file entries.  This
is the correct one:
http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/


On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com> wrote:

> You need an XDG/fdo menu entry (*.desktop) file in the ~/.config/autostart
> directory.
>
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html
>
> Create a file named "myvideoscript.desktop" or similar and add to it:
>
> [Desktop Entry]
> Encoding=UTF-8
> Icon=video-display
> Name=Autoplay videos
> Comment=Start videos
> Exec=/usr/local/bin/myscript
> Terminal=false
> Type=Application
> Categories=Video;
> StartupNotify=false
>
> Put your script in /usr/local/bin and make it executable.  Should start
> automatically at login.  If it doesn't then check ~/.xsession-errors for
> error messages.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have advise on adding a script to run after boot. I'm making
>> this script to play videos on a loop. I made a simple script and it runs
>> great in terminal, but adding it to ubuntu sessions/startup does do
>> anything. Adding it to rc.local seems to fail on launching mplayer before
>> the system if fully booted.
>> _______________________________________________
>> mdlug mailing list
>> mdlug at mdlug.org
>> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>>
>
>

From abehnke at gmail.com  Sat Apr 13 20:24:47 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 20:24:47 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <CAD39dTYw_H=au6G4F3jOE0OvU=8wKkCwdqxSKXimKKwz7rFkkg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+u8r+sx5AQh41GqE6w4LCUpeLxUeUdqpKEBPaSBM3V_YTxOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaKDu7Mehaz-W-MDL05_-iaNLymS2pG8oQXs1tbp4aJLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTYw_H=au6G4F3jOE0OvU=8wKkCwdqxSKXimKKwz7rFkkg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM+u8r+96ODNuqHv575AmC0guz0s8EMPWxhzthmaCvshu8efbA@mail.gmail.com>

ty


On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, the spec link was for menu structures, not menu file entries.  This
> is the correct one:
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You need an XDG/fdo menu entry (*.desktop) file in the
> ~/.config/autostart
> > directory.
> >
> > http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html
> >
> > Create a file named "myvideoscript.desktop" or similar and add to it:
> >
> > [Desktop Entry]
> > Encoding=UTF-8
> > Icon=video-display
> > Name=Autoplay videos
> > Comment=Start videos
> > Exec=/usr/local/bin/myscript
> > Terminal=false
> > Type=Application
> > Categories=Video;
> > StartupNotify=false
> >
> > Put your script in /usr/local/bin and make it executable.  Should start
> > automatically at login.  If it doesn't then check ~/.xsession-errors for
> > error messages.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have advise on adding a script to run after boot. I'm making
> >> this script to play videos on a loop. I made a simple script and it runs
> >> great in terminal, but adding it to ubuntu sessions/startup does do
> >> anything. Adding it to rc.local seems to fail on launching mplayer
> before
> >> the system if fully booted.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> mdlug mailing list
> >> mdlug at mdlug.org
> >> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> >>
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From mat.enders at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 08:20:27 2013
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (Mat Enders)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:20:27 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Images from website
Message-ID: <CAO+61WiUWny2Yoz5y7UKsBb9nWzrNCT-hsN6keYD=_mqQP2f+Q@mail.gmail.com>

I was looking around on the MDLUG web server and I can not find the larger
images that the small banner was made from at the top of the page.    I
need larger copies does anyone have larger copies.

-- 
Mathew E. Enders

"Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
--Jeremy Allison

From abehnke at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 09:04:00 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:04:00 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <CAD39dTYw_H=au6G4F3jOE0OvU=8wKkCwdqxSKXimKKwz7rFkkg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+u8r+sx5AQh41GqE6w4LCUpeLxUeUdqpKEBPaSBM3V_YTxOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaKDu7Mehaz-W-MDL05_-iaNLymS2pG8oQXs1tbp4aJLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTYw_H=au6G4F3jOE0OvU=8wKkCwdqxSKXimKKwz7rFkkg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM+u8rLHRejJCYjigtnk3FHhicqYg4uzyyMuYy0uCYCOAVg+Ug@mail.gmail.com>

ok, closer...

xsessions error fail on the part of my script that looks for the content on
usb drives, i think i have some fstab work lol.

** (xfce4-session:1331): WARNING **: Unable to launch
"/usr/local/bin/video.sh" (specified by autostart/videowall-1.desktop):
Failed to execute child process "/usr/local/bin/video.sh" (No such file or
directory)
find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied


just to clear clear, here is the script inside /usr/local/bin/videowall.sh

#!/bin/bash
echo "scanning drives and creating the playlist"
find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mp4" > /home/$USER/playlist.txt
find /media/* -type f -iname "*.avi" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mov" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mpg" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
find /media/* -type f -iname "*.ogg" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
echo "--------------------------"
echo "launching playlist"
mplayer -vo xv -fs -stop-xscreensaver -loop 0 -zoom -playlist
/home/$USER/playlist.txt


is this an fstab issue or an auto start config file issue?


On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, the spec link was for menu structures, not menu file entries.  This
> is the correct one:
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You need an XDG/fdo menu entry (*.desktop) file in the
> ~/.config/autostart
> > directory.
> >
> > http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html
> >
> > Create a file named "myvideoscript.desktop" or similar and add to it:
> >
> > [Desktop Entry]
> > Encoding=UTF-8
> > Icon=video-display
> > Name=Autoplay videos
> > Comment=Start videos
> > Exec=/usr/local/bin/myscript
> > Terminal=false
> > Type=Application
> > Categories=Video;
> > StartupNotify=false
> >
> > Put your script in /usr/local/bin and make it executable.  Should start
> > automatically at login.  If it doesn't then check ~/.xsession-errors for
> > error messages.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have advise on adding a script to run after boot. I'm making
> >> this script to play videos on a loop. I made a simple script and it runs
> >> great in terminal, but adding it to ubuntu sessions/startup does do
> >> anything. Adding it to rc.local seems to fail on launching mplayer
> before
> >> the system if fully booted.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> mdlug mailing list
> >> mdlug at mdlug.org
> >> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> >>
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From tesral at wowway.com  Sun Apr 14 09:53:30 2013
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:53:30 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Images from website
In-Reply-To: <CAO+61WiUWny2Yoz5y7UKsBb9nWzrNCT-hsN6keYD=_mqQP2f+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO+61WiUWny2Yoz5y7UKsBb9nWzrNCT-hsN6keYD=_mqQP2f+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <516AB4DA.30202@wowway.com>

On 04/14/2013 08:20 AM, Mat Enders wrote:
> I was looking around on the MDLUG web server and I can not find the larger
> images that the small banner was made from at the top of the page.    I
> need larger copies does anyone have larger copies.
>


Yes sir i do sir.  Who gets the news?  The list will just strip the 
attaches.

-- 
Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.

I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org


From mat.enders at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 10:04:04 2013
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (Mat Enders)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:04:04 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Images from website
In-Reply-To: <516AB4DA.30202@wowway.com>
References: <CAO+61WiUWny2Yoz5y7UKsBb9nWzrNCT-hsN6keYD=_mqQP2f+Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<516AB4DA.30202@wowway.com>
Message-ID: <CAO+61WjB7stcuJZ1U2ASivLZ7jZ03j9ThLwdGsueBXvYjN8qsA@mail.gmail.com>

If you would please send them to president at mdlug dot org I would
appreciate it.

Thank you,
On Apr 14, 2013 9:59 AM, "Garry Stahl" <tesral at wowway.com> wrote:

> On 04/14/2013 08:20 AM, Mat Enders wrote:
>
>> I was looking around on the MDLUG web server and I can not find the larger
>> images that the small banner was made from at the top of the page.    I
>> need larger copies does anyone have larger copies.
>>
>>
>
> Yes sir i do sir.  Who gets the news?  The list will just strip the
> attaches.
>
> --
> Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.
>
> I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
> believe it.
> Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
> The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
> Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org
>
> ______________________________**_________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
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>

From abehnke at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 10:36:51 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:36:51 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
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googling my issue, should i add 'sleep 3' to the beginning my script?


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:

> ok, closer...
>
> xsessions error fail on the part of my script that looks for the content
> on usb drives, i think i have some fstab work lol.
>
> ** (xfce4-session:1331): WARNING **: Unable to launch
> "/usr/local/bin/video.sh" (specified by autostart/videowall-1.desktop):
> Failed to execute child process "/usr/local/bin/video.sh" (No such file or
> directory)
> find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
>
>
> just to clear clear, here is the script inside /usr/local/bin/videowall.sh
>
> #!/bin/bash
> echo "scanning drives and creating the playlist"
> find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mp4" > /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> find /media/* -type f -iname "*.avi" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mov" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mpg" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> find /media/* -type f -iname "*.ogg" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> echo "--------------------------"
> echo "launching playlist"
> mplayer -vo xv -fs -stop-xscreensaver -loop 0 -zoom -playlist
> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
>
>
> is this an fstab issue or an auto start config file issue?
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, the spec link was for menu structures, not menu file entries.  This
>> is the correct one:
>> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > You need an XDG/fdo menu entry (*.desktop) file in the
>> ~/.config/autostart
>> > directory.
>> >
>> > http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html
>> >
>> > Create a file named "myvideoscript.desktop" or similar and add to it:
>> >
>> > [Desktop Entry]
>> > Encoding=UTF-8
>> > Icon=video-display
>> > Name=Autoplay videos
>> > Comment=Start videos
>> > Exec=/usr/local/bin/myscript
>> > Terminal=false
>> > Type=Application
>> > Categories=Video;
>> > StartupNotify=false
>> >
>> > Put your script in /usr/local/bin and make it executable.  Should start
>> > automatically at login.  If it doesn't then check ~/.xsession-errors for
>> > error messages.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Does anyone have advise on adding a script to run after boot. I'm
>> making
>> >> this script to play videos on a loop. I made a simple script and it
>> runs
>> >> great in terminal, but adding it to ubuntu sessions/startup does do
>> >> anything. Adding it to rc.local seems to fail on launching mplayer
>> before
>> >> the system if fully booted.
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> mdlug mailing list
>> >> mdlug at mdlug.org
>> >> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> mdlug mailing list
>> mdlug at mdlug.org
>> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>>
>
>

From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 11:47:26 2013
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:47:26 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
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The sleep wouldn't hurt.  What filesystem is on the USB drive?  Can you
browse the files manually with a file manager when logged into the same
account that the script is using?


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:

> googling my issue, should i add 'sleep 3' to the beginning my script?
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ok, closer...
> >
> > xsessions error fail on the part of my script that looks for the content
> > on usb drives, i think i have some fstab work lol.
> >
> > ** (xfce4-session:1331): WARNING **: Unable to launch
> > "/usr/local/bin/video.sh" (specified by autostart/videowall-1.desktop):
> > Failed to execute child process "/usr/local/bin/video.sh" (No such file
> or
> > directory)
> > find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> > find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> > find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> > find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> > find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> >
> >
> > just to clear clear, here is the script inside
> /usr/local/bin/videowall.sh
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > echo "scanning drives and creating the playlist"
> > find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mp4" > /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > find /media/* -type f -iname "*.avi" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mov" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mpg" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > find /media/* -type f -iname "*.ogg" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > echo "--------------------------"
> > echo "launching playlist"
> > mplayer -vo xv -fs -stop-xscreensaver -loop 0 -zoom -playlist
> > /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> >
> >
> > is this an fstab issue or an auto start config file issue?
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, the spec link was for menu structures, not menu file entries.
>  This
> >> is the correct one:
> >> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > You need an XDG/fdo menu entry (*.desktop) file in the
> >> ~/.config/autostart
> >> > directory.
> >> >
> >> > http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html
> >> >
> >> > Create a file named "myvideoscript.desktop" or similar and add to it:
> >> >
> >> > [Desktop Entry]
> >> > Encoding=UTF-8
> >> > Icon=video-display
> >> > Name=Autoplay videos
> >> > Comment=Start videos
> >> > Exec=/usr/local/bin/myscript
> >> > Terminal=false
> >> > Type=Application
> >> > Categories=Video;
> >> > StartupNotify=false
> >> >
> >> > Put your script in /usr/local/bin and make it executable.  Should
> start
> >> > automatically at login.  If it doesn't then check ~/.xsession-errors
> for
> >> > error messages.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Does anyone have advise on adding a script to run after boot. I'm
> >> making
> >> >> this script to play videos on a loop. I made a simple script and it
> >> runs
> >> >> great in terminal, but adding it to ubuntu sessions/startup does do
> >> >> anything. Adding it to rc.local seems to fail on launching mplayer
> >> before
> >> >> the system if fully booted.
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> mdlug mailing list
> >> >> mdlug at mdlug.org
> >> >> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> mdlug mailing list
> >> mdlug at mdlug.org
> >> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> >>
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From abehnke at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 12:01:02 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:01:02 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
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fat32. yes

actually, the script works great via both a desktop launcher and terminal.
sleep did not help, in fact i had to delete the playlist to get the script
to write the found files on the usb into the playlist.

if i get it working, i'll post a little something on my website on how to
do your own menuboards with a tv and a linux box. i'm just stuck on how to
get it to autostart just after the auto login is complete and the system is
fully up. after this is set, i'm thinking of installing the openbox UI.
that way the breaks between the items in the playlist show a black screen
instead of the desktop


tldr version: running as user good, as autostartup fail.


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com> wrote:

> The sleep wouldn't hurt.  What filesystem is on the USB drive?  Can you
> browse the files manually with a file manager when logged into the same
> account that the script is using?
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > googling my issue, should i add 'sleep 3' to the beginning my script?
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ok, closer...
> > >
> > > xsessions error fail on the part of my script that looks for the
> content
> > > on usb drives, i think i have some fstab work lol.
> > >
> > > ** (xfce4-session:1331): WARNING **: Unable to launch
> > > "/usr/local/bin/video.sh" (specified by autostart/videowall-1.desktop):
> > > Failed to execute child process "/usr/local/bin/video.sh" (No such file
> > or
> > > directory)
> > > find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> > > find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> > > find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> > > find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> > > find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
> > >
> > >
> > > just to clear clear, here is the script inside
> > /usr/local/bin/videowall.sh
> > >
> > > #!/bin/bash
> > > echo "scanning drives and creating the playlist"
> > > find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mp4" > /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > > find /media/* -type f -iname "*.avi" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > > find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mov" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > > find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mpg" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > > find /media/* -type f -iname "*.ogg" >> /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > > echo "--------------------------"
> > > echo "launching playlist"
> > > mplayer -vo xv -fs -stop-xscreensaver -loop 0 -zoom -playlist
> > > /home/$USER/playlist.txt
> > >
> > >
> > > is this an fstab issue or an auto start config file issue?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sorry, the spec link was for menu structures, not menu file entries.
> >  This
> > >> is the correct one:
> > >> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > You need an XDG/fdo menu entry (*.desktop) file in the
> > >> ~/.config/autostart
> > >> > directory.
> > >> >
> > >> > http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html
> > >> >
> > >> > Create a file named "myvideoscript.desktop" or similar and add to
> it:
> > >> >
> > >> > [Desktop Entry]
> > >> > Encoding=UTF-8
> > >> > Icon=video-display
> > >> > Name=Autoplay videos
> > >> > Comment=Start videos
> > >> > Exec=/usr/local/bin/myscript
> > >> > Terminal=false
> > >> > Type=Application
> > >> > Categories=Video;
> > >> > StartupNotify=false
> > >> >
> > >> > Put your script in /usr/local/bin and make it executable.  Should
> > start
> > >> > automatically at login.  If it doesn't then check ~/.xsession-errors
> > for
> > >> > error messages.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Does anyone have advise on adding a script to run after boot. I'm
> > >> making
> > >> >> this script to play videos on a loop. I made a simple script and it
> > >> runs
> > >> >> great in terminal, but adding it to ubuntu sessions/startup does do
> > >> >> anything. Adding it to rc.local seems to fail on launching mplayer
> > >> before
> > >> >> the system if fully booted.
> > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > >> >> mdlug mailing list
> > >> >> mdlug at mdlug.org
> > >> >> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> mdlug mailing list
> > >> mdlug at mdlug.org
> > >> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > mdlug mailing list
> > mdlug at mdlug.org
> > http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From awilliam at whitemice.org  Sun Apr 14 16:35:13 2013
From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:35:13 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
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On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 12:01 -0400, Adam Behnke wrote: 
> fat32. yes
> actually, the script works great via both a desktop launcher and terminal.
> sleep did not help, in fact i had to delete the playlist to get the script
> to write the found files on the usb into the playlist.

Because user apps need a user session to operate normally.

1.) Set the box to auto-login as a guest user [or some user].
2.) Run gnome-session-properties and add the script as a "Startup
program".


From mat.enders at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 17:17:26 2013
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (Mat Enders)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 17:17:26 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
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 Try modifying the shell line to add a -l (that is a lower case L).


#!/bin/bash -l

The -l argument specifies a login shell. If your usual login sets a lot of
environment variables this can quickly solve a multitude of strange
problems.


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam at whitemice.org
> wrote:

> On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 12:01 -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> > fat32. yes
> > actually, the script works great via both a desktop launcher and
> terminal.
> > sleep did not help, in fact i had to delete the playlist to get the
> script
> > to write the found files on the usb into the playlist.
>
> Because user apps need a user session to operate normally.
>
> 1.) Set the box to auto-login as a guest user [or some user].
> 2.) Run gnome-session-properties and add the script as a "Startup
> program".
>
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>



-- 
Mathew E. Enders

"Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
--Jeremy Allison

From abehnke at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 18:29:12 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:29:12 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
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i have the box auto-login as the user i created. it's actually xubuntu, but
i'll try gnome-session-properties.

reading up on it, i think the #!/bin/bash -l might do the trick


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Try modifying the shell line to add a -l (that is a lower case L).
>
>
> #!/bin/bash -l
>
> The -l argument specifies a login shell. If your usual login sets a lot of
> environment variables this can quickly solve a multitude of strange
> problems.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Adam Tauno Williams <
> awilliam at whitemice.org
> > wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 12:01 -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> > > fat32. yes
> > > actually, the script works great via both a desktop launcher and
> > terminal.
> > > sleep did not help, in fact i had to delete the playlist to get the
> > script
> > > to write the found files on the usb into the playlist.
> >
> > Because user apps need a user session to operate normally.
> >
> > 1.) Set the box to auto-login as a guest user [or some user].
> > 2.) Run gnome-session-properties and add the script as a "Startup
> > program".
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > mdlug mailing list
> > mdlug at mdlug.org
> > http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mathew E. Enders
>
> "Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
> of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
> --Jeremy Allison
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From abehnke at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 12:42:04 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:42:04 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <CAM+u8rJB04FRWsCqqXU6ioY0LoXrYt9J_=Nj10AmaeZY8SxHxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+u8r+sx5AQh41GqE6w4LCUpeLxUeUdqpKEBPaSBM3V_YTxOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaKDu7Mehaz-W-MDL05_-iaNLymS2pG8oQXs1tbp4aJLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTYw_H=au6G4F3jOE0OvU=8wKkCwdqxSKXimKKwz7rFkkg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rLHRejJCYjigtnk3FHhicqYg4uzyyMuYy0uCYCOAVg+Ug@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8r+kM0iFH9obZkApEnHf_YM+yDUqxSn3AXzcgS-s7B+UEA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaETDUYY_LA+oZqDH5HSRb-vZDnNX8=VuT__PEeNkqi9g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rKZhV4XrXoSB4M7kGWpYmXgV+gKCXdAKN0j1VKxfGKwbQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1365971713.9791.1.camel@workstation.wmmi.net>
	<CAO+61WjKh5wD5pj2kD0yKQ3sq6r6Zr0295omMDbHgj_vnnkRxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rJB04FRWsCqqXU6ioY0LoXrYt9J_=Nj10AmaeZY8SxHxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM+u8rJ+aTZujic4873rymsb16bb19aG3c6BGVN_+X1eAvCkAA@mail.gmail.com>

i'm starting to see my issue, it's timing. i should make it mount whatever
usb drives are present before it searches for the content. to google.... lol


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:

> i have the box auto-login as the user i created. it's actually xubuntu,
> but i'll try gnome-session-properties.
>
> reading up on it, i think the #!/bin/bash -l might do the trick
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Try modifying the shell line to add a -l (that is a lower case L).
>>
>>
>> #!/bin/bash -l
>>
>> The -l argument specifies a login shell. If your usual login sets a lot of
>> environment variables this can quickly solve a multitude of strange
>> problems.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Adam Tauno Williams <
>> awilliam at whitemice.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 12:01 -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
>> > > fat32. yes
>> > > actually, the script works great via both a desktop launcher and
>> > terminal.
>> > > sleep did not help, in fact i had to delete the playlist to get the
>> > script
>> > > to write the found files on the usb into the playlist.
>> >
>> > Because user apps need a user session to operate normally.
>> >
>> > 1.) Set the box to auto-login as a guest user [or some user].
>> > 2.) Run gnome-session-properties and add the script as a "Startup
>> > program".
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > mdlug mailing list
>> > mdlug at mdlug.org
>> > http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mathew E. Enders
>>
>> "Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just
>> part
>> of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
>> --Jeremy Allison
>> _______________________________________________
>> mdlug mailing list
>> mdlug at mdlug.org
>> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>>
>
>

From awilliam at whitemice.org  Tue Apr 16 12:59:16 2013
From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:59:16 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <CAM+u8rJ+aTZujic4873rymsb16bb19aG3c6BGVN_+X1eAvCkAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+u8r+sx5AQh41GqE6w4LCUpeLxUeUdqpKEBPaSBM3V_YTxOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaKDu7Mehaz-W-MDL05_-iaNLymS2pG8oQXs1tbp4aJLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTYw_H=au6G4F3jOE0OvU=8wKkCwdqxSKXimKKwz7rFkkg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rLHRejJCYjigtnk3FHhicqYg4uzyyMuYy0uCYCOAVg+Ug@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8r+kM0iFH9obZkApEnHf_YM+yDUqxSn3AXzcgS-s7B+UEA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaETDUYY_LA+oZqDH5HSRb-vZDnNX8=VuT__PEeNkqi9g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rKZhV4XrXoSB4M7kGWpYmXgV+gKCXdAKN0j1VKxfGKwbQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1365971713.9791.1.camel@workstation.wmmi.net>
	<CAO+61WjKh5wD5pj2kD0yKQ3sq6r6Zr0295omMDbHgj_vnnkRxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rJB04FRWsCqqXU6ioY0LoXrYt9J_=Nj10AmaeZY8SxHxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rJ+aTZujic4873rymsb16bb19aG3c6BGVN_+X1eAvCkAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1366131556.4185.4.camel@linux-22wg.site>

On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 12:42 -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> i'm starting to see my issue, it's timing. i should make it mount whatever
> usb drives are present before it searches for the content. to google.... lol

Why waste time beating a search engine for this issue and sorting
through the resulting swill?

Just "mount -a" [as root] will mount all defined volumes.

Devices can also be set to automount.  A dbus service will notify you
when such an event occurs [use "d-feet" and you should be able to see
the event happen or the service to register with].  

  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount true

Listening for the signal with Python is trivial, then when you see an
automount, just do whatever you need to do.  Being event driven is the
only solution that is going to be reliable.

For example - to query for network connectivity [in a reliable d-bus way
-
<http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com/2011/12/querying-connectivity.html>



From tesral at wowway.com  Tue Apr 16 13:00:32 2013
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:00:32 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Weird thing
Message-ID: <516D83B0.6050403@wowway.com>

My minus key on the ten key keypad is locking the session and shutting 
down the computer.  I lose nothing, but I have to turn the machine back 
on and there is no normal start up it jumps back into the session.

It just started this.  The HELL!???

OpenSUSE  12.1  Any ideas?


-- 
Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.

I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org


From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 13:13:08 2013
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:13:08 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Weird thing
In-Reply-To: <516D83B0.6050403@wowway.com>
References: <516D83B0.6050403@wowway.com>
Message-ID: <CAD39dTZ2EVzZQ3S+G_HiOqSuJnqwekddd=PRpYoj8ceAaaGFUg@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like it's set for enabling Suspend.  Check your keyboard shortcut
settings for power management.


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Garry Stahl <tesral at wowway.com> wrote:

> My minus key on the ten key keypad is locking the session and shutting
> down the computer.  I lose nothing, but I have to turn the machine back on
> and there is no normal start up it jumps back into the session.
>
> It just started this.  The HELL!???
>
> OpenSUSE  12.1  Any ideas?
>
>
> --
> Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.
>
> I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
> believe it.
> Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
> The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
> Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org
>
> ______________________________**_________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/**listinfo/mdlug<http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug>
>

From awilliam at whitemice.org  Tue Apr 16 13:17:55 2013
From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:17:55 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Weird thing
In-Reply-To: <CAD39dTZ2EVzZQ3S+G_HiOqSuJnqwekddd=PRpYoj8ceAaaGFUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <516D83B0.6050403@wowway.com>
	<CAD39dTZ2EVzZQ3S+G_HiOqSuJnqwekddd=PRpYoj8ceAaaGFUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1366132675.4185.5.camel@linux-22wg.site>

On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 13:13 -0400, Jeff Hanson wrote:
> Sounds like it's set for enabling Suspend.  Check your keyboard shortcut
> settings for power management.

Yep.



From abehnke at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 13:23:44 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:23:44 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <1366131556.4185.4.camel@linux-22wg.site>
References: <CAM+u8r+sx5AQh41GqE6w4LCUpeLxUeUdqpKEBPaSBM3V_YTxOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaKDu7Mehaz-W-MDL05_-iaNLymS2pG8oQXs1tbp4aJLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTYw_H=au6G4F3jOE0OvU=8wKkCwdqxSKXimKKwz7rFkkg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rLHRejJCYjigtnk3FHhicqYg4uzyyMuYy0uCYCOAVg+Ug@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8r+kM0iFH9obZkApEnHf_YM+yDUqxSn3AXzcgS-s7B+UEA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaETDUYY_LA+oZqDH5HSRb-vZDnNX8=VuT__PEeNkqi9g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rKZhV4XrXoSB4M7kGWpYmXgV+gKCXdAKN0j1VKxfGKwbQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1365971713.9791.1.camel@workstation.wmmi.net>
	<CAO+61WjKh5wD5pj2kD0yKQ3sq6r6Zr0295omMDbHgj_vnnkRxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rJB04FRWsCqqXU6ioY0LoXrYt9J_=Nj10AmaeZY8SxHxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rJ+aTZujic4873rymsb16bb19aG3c6BGVN_+X1eAvCkAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1366131556.4185.4.camel@linux-22wg.site>
Message-ID: <CAM+u8r+-vvo7nQuoYHHRuisUw_S8wCaFz-dj5O9kmwQMhKNKYw@mail.gmail.com>

i just tried sudo mount -a in terminal and it didn't mount the usb drive,
it seems the usb drives don't automount on this system. right clicking and
mounting from the gui works fine.

i'll configure the automount and i'm reading up on d-feet


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Adam Tauno Williams <
awilliam at whitemice.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 12:42 -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> > i'm starting to see my issue, it's timing. i should make it mount
> whatever
> > usb drives are present before it searches for the content. to google....
> lol
>
> Why waste time beating a search engine for this issue and sorting
> through the resulting swill?
>
> Just "mount -a" [as root] will mount all defined volumes.
>
> Devices can also be set to automount.  A dbus service will notify you
> when such an event occurs [use "d-feet" and you should be able to see
> the event happen or the service to register with].
>
>   gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount true
>
> Listening for the signal with Python is trivial, then when you see an
> automount, just do whatever you need to do.  Being event driven is the
> only solution that is going to be reliable.
>
> For example - to query for network connectivity [in a reliable d-bus way
> -
> <http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com/2011/12/querying-connectivity.html>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From abehnke at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 09:26:24 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:26:24 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <CAM+u8r+-vvo7nQuoYHHRuisUw_S8wCaFz-dj5O9kmwQMhKNKYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+u8r+sx5AQh41GqE6w4LCUpeLxUeUdqpKEBPaSBM3V_YTxOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaKDu7Mehaz-W-MDL05_-iaNLymS2pG8oQXs1tbp4aJLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTYw_H=au6G4F3jOE0OvU=8wKkCwdqxSKXimKKwz7rFkkg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rLHRejJCYjigtnk3FHhicqYg4uzyyMuYy0uCYCOAVg+Ug@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8r+kM0iFH9obZkApEnHf_YM+yDUqxSn3AXzcgS-s7B+UEA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaETDUYY_LA+oZqDH5HSRb-vZDnNX8=VuT__PEeNkqi9g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rKZhV4XrXoSB4M7kGWpYmXgV+gKCXdAKN0j1VKxfGKwbQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1365971713.9791.1.camel@workstation.wmmi.net>
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	<CAM+u8rJB04FRWsCqqXU6ioY0LoXrYt9J_=Nj10AmaeZY8SxHxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rJ+aTZujic4873rymsb16bb19aG3c6BGVN_+X1eAvCkAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1366131556.4185.4.camel@linux-22wg.site>
	<CAM+u8r+-vvo7nQuoYHHRuisUw_S8wCaFz-dj5O9kmwQMhKNKYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM+u8rK7fF6MGN1jT2vq9orX+kY50SF7CSe6JkBEFDbzf_zS5A@mail.gmail.com>

the script currently, works in terminal, fails on startup

#!/bin/bash -l
echo "initializing"
if [ "$(ls -A /media/videowall9)" ]; then
umount /media/videowall9
rmdir /media/videowall9
fi
if [ "$(ls -A /media)" ]; then
echo "Found USB Drives"
else
echo "Mounting USB Drives"
mkdir /media/videowall9
mount -t vfat /dev/disk/by-label/VIDWALL /media/videowall9 -o
uid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137
echo "Found USB Drives"
fi
echo "scanning drives and creating the playlist"
find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mp4" > /home/user/playlist.txt
find /media/* -type f -iname "*.avi" >> /home/user/playlist.txt
find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mov" >> /home/user/playlist.txt
find /media/* -type f -iname "*.mpg" >> /home/user/playlist.txt
find /media/* -type f -iname "*.ogg" >> /home/user/playlist.txt
echo "--------------------------"
echo "launching playlist"
mplayer -vo xv -fs -stop-xscreensaver -loop 0 -zoom -playlist
/home/user/playlist.txt



------

the xsession-errors

openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
cannot connect to brltty at :0
ls: cannot access /media/videowall9: No such file or directory
find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied
find: `/media/VIDWALL': Permission denied

(polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:1467): GLib-CRITICAL **:
g_variant_new_string: assertion `string != NULL' failed

(polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:1467): polkit-gnome-1-WARNING **:
Failed to register client:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(xfce4-settings-helper:1493): xfce4-settings-helper-WARNING **: Failed to
get the _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS property.
** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
** Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon
** Message: applet now embedded in the notification area

(xfce4-indicator-plugin:1655): libindicator-WARNING **: IndicatorObject
class does not have an accessible description.

(xfce4-indicator-plugin:1655): libindicator-WARNING **: IndicatorObject
class does not have an accessible description.
** Message: moving back from GtkStatusIcon to indicator
** Message: applet now removed from the notification area

(xfce4-indicator-plugin:1655): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_realize:
assertion `GTK_WIDGET_ANCHORED (widget) || GTK_IS_INVISIBLE (widget)' failed
Error while parsing playlist
Warning: empty playlist
Error parsing option on the command line: -playlist


------

i think i need to brew some coffee and ponder these for a while.


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:

> i just tried sudo mount -a in terminal and it didn't mount the usb drive,
> it seems the usb drives don't automount on this system. right clicking and
> mounting from the gui works fine.
>
> i'll configure the automount and i'm reading up on d-feet
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Adam Tauno Williams <
> awilliam at whitemice.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 12:42 -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
>> > i'm starting to see my issue, it's timing. i should make it mount
>> whatever
>> > usb drives are present before it searches for the content. to
>> google.... lol
>>
>> Why waste time beating a search engine for this issue and sorting
>> through the resulting swill?
>>
>> Just "mount -a" [as root] will mount all defined volumes.
>>
>> Devices can also be set to automount.  A dbus service will notify you
>> when such an event occurs [use "d-feet" and you should be able to see
>> the event happen or the service to register with].
>>
>>   gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount true
>>
>> Listening for the signal with Python is trivial, then when you see an
>> automount, just do whatever you need to do.  Being event driven is the
>> only solution that is going to be reliable.
>>
>> For example - to query for network connectivity [in a reliable d-bus way
>> -
>> <http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com/2011/12/querying-connectivity.html>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> mdlug mailing list
>> mdlug at mdlug.org
>> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>>
>
>

From billings at negate.org  Wed Apr 17 10:09:09 2013
From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan Billings)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:09:09 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <CAM+u8rK7fF6MGN1jT2vq9orX+kY50SF7CSe6JkBEFDbzf_zS5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+u8r+kM0iFH9obZkApEnHf_YM+yDUqxSn3AXzcgS-s7B+UEA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaETDUYY_LA+oZqDH5HSRb-vZDnNX8=VuT__PEeNkqi9g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rKZhV4XrXoSB4M7kGWpYmXgV+gKCXdAKN0j1VKxfGKwbQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1365971713.9791.1.camel@workstation.wmmi.net>
	<CAO+61WjKh5wD5pj2kD0yKQ3sq6r6Zr0295omMDbHgj_vnnkRxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rJB04FRWsCqqXU6ioY0LoXrYt9J_=Nj10AmaeZY8SxHxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rJ+aTZujic4873rymsb16bb19aG3c6BGVN_+X1eAvCkAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1366131556.4185.4.camel@linux-22wg.site>
	<CAM+u8r+-vvo7nQuoYHHRuisUw_S8wCaFz-dj5O9kmwQMhKNKYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rK7fF6MGN1jT2vq9orX+kY50SF7CSe6JkBEFDbzf_zS5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130417140909.GA25405@caen-tethys.engin.umich.edu>

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 09:26:24AM -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
>
> the script currently, works in terminal, fails on startup
> 
> #!/bin/bash -l
> echo "initializing"
> if [ "$(ls -A /media/videowall9)" ]; then

What are you trying to do here?  Determine if the mountpoint exists?
You might be better off replacing the "$(..)" with a grep of
/proc/mounts.  

> umount /media/videowall9
> rmdir /media/videowall9

I bet /media is an automount directory (or something gvfs monitors?)
so you can't willy-nilly create and delete mountpoints in /media.
Also, this is running in your user's context, and I doubt it has the
ability to create and remove mountpoints in /media.  This is why the
automount systems exist.

If you really want to have your external storage always mounted
somewhere, put it in /etc/fstab and mount it someplace other than
/media.  There are options you can set to have the user have the
ability to mount/unmount it on demand, although not automatically.

If you want some command to run on graphical login, you need to have
it either listen for an event from the DBus system about the
mountpoint, or (less complex) just have it sit around and wait until
the mountpoints exist.  

-- 
Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>

From abehnke at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 10:38:31 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:38:31 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <20130417140909.GA25405@caen-tethys.engin.umich.edu>
References: <CAM+u8r+kM0iFH9obZkApEnHf_YM+yDUqxSn3AXzcgS-s7B+UEA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaETDUYY_LA+oZqDH5HSRb-vZDnNX8=VuT__PEeNkqi9g@mail.gmail.com>
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i am trying to trying to determine if the usb is mounted and create an
alternate method of playing the menuboard it the usb drive didn't mount.

thank you for the suggestions, i'll trying grepping and mounting somewhere
other than /media if it doesn't see the usb drive and googling dbus signals.






On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 09:26:24AM -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> >
> > the script currently, works in terminal, fails on startup
> >
> > #!/bin/bash -l
> > echo "initializing"
> > if [ "$(ls -A /media/videowall9)" ]; then
>
> What are you trying to do here?  Determine if the mountpoint exists?
> You might be better off replacing the "$(..)" with a grep of
> /proc/mounts.
>
> > umount /media/videowall9
> > rmdir /media/videowall9
>
> I bet /media is an automount directory (or something gvfs monitors?)
> so you can't willy-nilly create and delete mountpoints in /media.
> Also, this is running in your user's context, and I doubt it has the
> ability to create and remove mountpoints in /media.  This is why the
> automount systems exist.
>
> If you really want to have your external storage always mounted
> somewhere, put it in /etc/fstab and mount it someplace other than
> /media.  There are options you can set to have the user have the
> ability to mount/unmount it on demand, although not automatically.
>
> If you want some command to run on graphical login, you need to have
> it either listen for an event from the DBus system about the
> mountpoint, or (less complex) just have it sit around and wait until
> the mountpoints exist.
>
> --
> Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 12:18:40 2013
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:18:40 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <CAM+u8rL6p21ssbrMizzuTLtXcCNyX7OCduqXx62tdni4Pj-bqA@mail.gmail.com>
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If it's a timing problem then just repeatedly check the mountpoint via
while/do/done loop.  Add a sleep command and a counter with a "break" to
escape the loop if it doesn't mount after a set number of cycles.


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:

> i am trying to trying to determine if the usb is mounted and create an
> alternate method of playing the menuboard it the usb drive didn't mount.
>
> thank you for the suggestions, i'll trying grepping and mounting somewhere
> other than /media if it doesn't see the usb drive and googling dbus
> signals.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org
> >wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 09:26:24AM -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> > >
> > > the script currently, works in terminal, fails on startup
> > >
> > > #!/bin/bash -l
> > > echo "initializing"
> > > if [ "$(ls -A /media/videowall9)" ]; then
> >
> > What are you trying to do here?  Determine if the mountpoint exists?
> > You might be better off replacing the "$(..)" with a grep of
> > /proc/mounts.
> >
> > > umount /media/videowall9
> > > rmdir /media/videowall9
> >
> > I bet /media is an automount directory (or something gvfs monitors?)
> > so you can't willy-nilly create and delete mountpoints in /media.
> > Also, this is running in your user's context, and I doubt it has the
> > ability to create and remove mountpoints in /media.  This is why the
> > automount systems exist.
> >
> > If you really want to have your external storage always mounted
> > somewhere, put it in /etc/fstab and mount it someplace other than
> > /media.  There are options you can set to have the user have the
> > ability to mount/unmount it on demand, although not automatically.
> >
> > If you want some command to run on graphical login, you need to have
> > it either listen for an event from the DBus system about the
> > mountpoint, or (less complex) just have it sit around and wait until
> > the mountpoints exist.
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
> > _______________________________________________
> > mdlug mailing list
> > mdlug at mdlug.org
> > http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From mat.enders at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 13:00:47 2013
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (Mat Enders)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:00:47 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
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Is this supposed to be 2 separate lines

mplayer -vo xv -fs -stop-xscreensaver -loop 0 -zoom -playlist
/home/user/playlist.txt

Because the error at the bottom makes it seem as if the argument after
-playlist is missing


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com> wrote:

> If it's a timing problem then just repeatedly check the mountpoint via
> while/do/done loop.  Add a sleep command and a counter with a "break" to
> escape the loop if it doesn't mount after a set number of cycles.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > i am trying to trying to determine if the usb is mounted and create an
> > alternate method of playing the menuboard it the usb drive didn't mount.
> >
> > thank you for the suggestions, i'll trying grepping and mounting
> somewhere
> > other than /media if it doesn't see the usb drive and googling dbus
> > signals.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 09:26:24AM -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> > > >
> > > > the script currently, works in terminal, fails on startup
> > > >
> > > > #!/bin/bash -l
> > > > echo "initializing"
> > > > if [ "$(ls -A /media/videowall9)" ]; then
> > >
> > > What are you trying to do here?  Determine if the mountpoint exists?
> > > You might be better off replacing the "$(..)" with a grep of
> > > /proc/mounts.
> > >
> > > > umount /media/videowall9
> > > > rmdir /media/videowall9
> > >
> > > I bet /media is an automount directory (or something gvfs monitors?)
> > > so you can't willy-nilly create and delete mountpoints in /media.
> > > Also, this is running in your user's context, and I doubt it has the
> > > ability to create and remove mountpoints in /media.  This is why the
> > > automount systems exist.
> > >
> > > If you really want to have your external storage always mounted
> > > somewhere, put it in /etc/fstab and mount it someplace other than
> > > /media.  There are options you can set to have the user have the
> > > ability to mount/unmount it on demand, although not automatically.
> > >
> > > If you want some command to run on graphical login, you need to have
> > > it either listen for an event from the DBus system about the
> > > mountpoint, or (less complex) just have it sit around and wait until
> > > the mountpoints exist.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > mdlug mailing list
> > > mdlug at mdlug.org
> > > http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > mdlug mailing list
> > mdlug at mdlug.org
> > http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>



-- 
Mathew E. Enders

"Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
--Jeremy Allison

From awilliam at whitemice.org  Wed Apr 17 13:28:16 2013
From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:28:16 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
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On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 10:38 -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> i am trying to trying to determine if the usb is mounted and create an
> alternate method of playing the menuboard it the usb drive didn't mount.

You can *always* and *reliably* read the mounted filesystems
from /proc/mounts.

> thank you for the suggestions, i'll trying grepping and mounting somewhere
> other than /media if it doesn't see the usb drive and googling dbus signals.



From abehnke at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 13:28:28 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:28:28 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
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The usb does not automount on boot for this pc despite being set too. I
tried adding the flash drive to fstab by label, uuid and id, but i keep
getting the error on boot prompting me to hit "s" to skip mounting it or
"m" to manually recover.

It will automount if i plug a usb after it boots. i'm reading on google
that it's a known bug regarding my test pc's crappy old dell's bios.

i picked a bad computer to use, lol.

matt: it's in the seem line. unless i have the syntax wrong, it should
define which playlist to use


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Mat Enders <mat.enders at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is this supposed to be 2 separate lines
>
> mplayer -vo xv -fs -stop-xscreensaver -loop 0 -zoom -playlist
> /home/user/playlist.txt
>
> Because the error at the bottom makes it seem as if the argument after
> -playlist is missing
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Hanson <jhansonxi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If it's a timing problem then just repeatedly check the mountpoint via
> > while/do/done loop.  Add a sleep command and a counter with a "break" to
> > escape the loop if it doesn't mount after a set number of cycles.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Adam Behnke <abehnke at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > i am trying to trying to determine if the usb is mounted and create an
> > > alternate method of playing the menuboard it the usb drive didn't
> mount.
> > >
> > > thank you for the suggestions, i'll trying grepping and mounting
> > somewhere
> > > other than /media if it doesn't see the usb drive and googling dbus
> > > signals.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jonathan Billings <
> billings at negate.org
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 09:26:24AM -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > the script currently, works in terminal, fails on startup
> > > > >
> > > > > #!/bin/bash -l
> > > > > echo "initializing"
> > > > > if [ "$(ls -A /media/videowall9)" ]; then
> > > >
> > > > What are you trying to do here?  Determine if the mountpoint exists?
> > > > You might be better off replacing the "$(..)" with a grep of
> > > > /proc/mounts.
> > > >
> > > > > umount /media/videowall9
> > > > > rmdir /media/videowall9
> > > >
> > > > I bet /media is an automount directory (or something gvfs monitors?)
> > > > so you can't willy-nilly create and delete mountpoints in /media.
> > > > Also, this is running in your user's context, and I doubt it has the
> > > > ability to create and remove mountpoints in /media.  This is why the
> > > > automount systems exist.
> > > >
> > > > If you really want to have your external storage always mounted
> > > > somewhere, put it in /etc/fstab and mount it someplace other than
> > > > /media.  There are options you can set to have the user have the
> > > > ability to mount/unmount it on demand, although not automatically.
> > > >
> > > > If you want some command to run on graphical login, you need to have
> > > > it either listen for an event from the DBus system about the
> > > > mountpoint, or (less complex) just have it sit around and wait until
> > > > the mountpoints exist.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > mdlug mailing list
> > > > mdlug at mdlug.org
> > > > http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > mdlug mailing list
> > > mdlug at mdlug.org
> > > http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > mdlug mailing list
> > mdlug at mdlug.org
> > http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mathew E. Enders
>
> "Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part
> of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
> --Jeremy Allison
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

From awilliam at whitemice.org  Wed Apr 17 13:31:11 2013
From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:31:11 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
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	<CAO+61WjhDinQvnYGLgkVgU+92+bRBCuE5LzFs_ue+Uae3699aw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rKJ4o2SF3Sss4KauBC14rFfk+rSBHE4biDNXft=O9Gu1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1366219871.7334.4.camel@linux-22wg.site>

On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 13:28 -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> The usb does not automount on boot for this pc despite being set too. I
> tried adding the flash drive to fstab by label, uuid and id, but i keep
> getting the error on boot prompting me to hit "s" to skip mounting it or
> "m" to manually recover.
> It will automount if i plug a usb after it boots. i'm reading on google
> that it's a known bug regarding my test pc's crappy old dell's bios.

Ah, many HPs have the same problem at well - USB mass storage devices
connected at boot are twitchy things.

You need to come up with some trick to delay or restart USB device
initialization - I can't think of any non-VERY-hacky way to pull that
off.   With that hardware I'm afraid what you want is just never going
to work well.

> i picked a bad computer to use, lol.
>matt: it's in the seem line. unless i have the syntax wrong, it should
> define which playlist to use



From abehnke at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 13:31:43 2013
From: abehnke at gmail.com (Adam Behnke)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:31:43 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Adding a shell script to run after boot.
In-Reply-To: <1366219696.7334.2.camel@linux-22wg.site>
References: <CAM+u8r+kM0iFH9obZkApEnHf_YM+yDUqxSn3AXzcgS-s7B+UEA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD39dTaETDUYY_LA+oZqDH5HSRb-vZDnNX8=VuT__PEeNkqi9g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rKZhV4XrXoSB4M7kGWpYmXgV+gKCXdAKN0j1VKxfGKwbQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1365971713.9791.1.camel@workstation.wmmi.net>
	<CAO+61WjKh5wD5pj2kD0yKQ3sq6r6Zr0295omMDbHgj_vnnkRxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rJB04FRWsCqqXU6ioY0LoXrYt9J_=Nj10AmaeZY8SxHxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rJ+aTZujic4873rymsb16bb19aG3c6BGVN_+X1eAvCkAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1366131556.4185.4.camel@linux-22wg.site>
	<CAM+u8r+-vvo7nQuoYHHRuisUw_S8wCaFz-dj5O9kmwQMhKNKYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM+u8rK7fF6MGN1jT2vq9orX+kY50SF7CSe6JkBEFDbzf_zS5A@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130417140909.GA25405@caen-tethys.engin.umich.edu>
	<CAM+u8rL6p21ssbrMizzuTLtXcCNyX7OCduqXx62tdni4Pj-bqA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1366219696.7334.2.camel@linux-22wg.site>
Message-ID: <CAM+u8r+0qO65hGuN_c+SLuVaBn3kGDOyWSMvoP3xG=ZMSU-4Ng@mail.gmail.com>

hmmm, thank you, contemplating my grep...


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam at whitemice.org
> wrote:

> On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 10:38 -0400, Adam Behnke wrote:
> > i am trying to trying to determine if the usb is mounted and create an
> > alternate method of playing the menuboard it the usb drive didn't mount.
>
> You can *always* and *reliably* read the mounted filesystems
> from /proc/mounts.
>
> > thank you for the suggestions, i'll trying grepping and mounting
> somewhere
> > other than /media if it doesn't see the usb drive and googling dbus
> signals.
>
>
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From tesral at wowway.com  Wed Apr 17 14:47:42 2013
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:47:42 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Weird thing
In-Reply-To: <1366132675.4185.5.camel@linux-22wg.site>
References: <516D83B0.6050403@wowway.com>
	<CAD39dTZ2EVzZQ3S+G_HiOqSuJnqwekddd=PRpYoj8ceAaaGFUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1366132675.4185.5.camel@linux-22wg.site>
Message-ID: <516EEE4E.8010403@wowway.com>

On 04/16/2013 01:17 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 13:13 -0400, Jeff Hanson wrote:
>> Sounds like it's set for enabling Suspend.  Check your keyboard shortcut
>> settings for power management.
> Yep.
>

I haven't found it yet.


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I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
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From tesral at wowway.com  Wed Apr 17 14:59:26 2013
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:59:26 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Weird thing
In-Reply-To: <1366132675.4185.5.camel@linux-22wg.site>
References: <516D83B0.6050403@wowway.com>
	<CAD39dTZ2EVzZQ3S+G_HiOqSuJnqwekddd=PRpYoj8ceAaaGFUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1366132675.4185.5.camel@linux-22wg.site>
Message-ID: <516EF10E.5040802@wowway.com>

On 04/16/2013 01:17 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 13:13 -0400, Jeff Hanson wrote:
>> Sounds like it's set for enabling Suspend.  Check your keyboard shortcut
>> settings for power management.
> Yep.
>
Found it, finally.  Under "Global keyboard shortcuts"  I have no idea 
how it got turned on.


-- 
Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.

I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org


From gib at juno.com  Fri Apr 19 20:47:33 2013
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:47:33 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] Fw: C# Developers, Sr. Web Developers,
	PHP Developers - Needed Immedia	tely
Message-ID: <20130419.204733.9371.1@webmail15.vgs.untd.com>

FYI

Please note: forwarded message attached

From: "Bushman, Robert" <Rob.Bushman at modis.com>
To: "gib at juno.com" <gib at juno.com>
Subject: C# Developers, Sr. Web Developers, PHP Developers - Needed Immediately
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 17:44:28 -0400


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From gib at juno.com  Wed Apr 24 16:57:27 2013
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:57:27 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] MUG 2013 April Meeting - Big Data - HADOOP - Videos
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Here are the videos from the MUG meeting this month:

http://youtu.be/6-4I7SLzBoc

http://youtu.be/x72xUGlTtVs
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