From tony at bemushosting.com  Sun May  2 10:52:02 2010
From: tony at bemushosting.com (Tony Bemus)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 10:52:02 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM
Message-ID: <0MDRHZ-1O9RTY2dVl-00H0uH@mrelay.perfora.net>

If you have stuff in the room and you need in email back and i will open the room.  Everything needs to be out before noon

Tony Bemus
Sent from my smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: gib at juno.com <gib at juno.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:10 AM
To: gib at juno.com
Cc: warnermach at gmail.com; richardj55 at sbcglobal.net; clyne at lodden.com; officers at mdlug.org; board at mug.org; sanzicar at yahoo.com; mdlug at mdlug.org; mdbader at wowway.com; franzb at ameritech.net; argie4444 at yahoo.com; jrl at lodden.com; open.computing at yahoo.com; edz at comcast.net
Subject: 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM


Clean up is scheudled for 10AM today. Get your stuff.


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From gib at juno.com  Sun May  2 20:14:28 2010
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 00:14:28 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM
Message-ID: <20100502.201428.24268.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>


Everything seems to be accounted for.  Except, I have one canvas bag with blue stripes.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com>
To: MDLUG's Main discussion list <mdlug at mdlug.org>
Subject: Re: [mdlug] 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 10:52:02 -0400

If you have stuff in the room and you need in email back and i will open the room.  Everything needs to be out before noon

Tony Bemus
Sent from my smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: gib at juno.com <gib at juno.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:10 AM
To: gib at juno.com
Cc: warnermach at gmail.com; richardj55 at sbcglobal.net; clyne at lodden.com; officers at mdlug.org; board at mug.org; sanzicar at yahoo.com; mdlug at mdlug.org; mdbader at wowway.com; franzb at ameritech.net; argie4444 at yahoo.com; jrl at lodden.com; open.computing at yahoo.com; edz at comcast.net
Subject: 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM


Clean up is scheudled for 10AM today. Get your stuff.


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From tesral at wowway.com  Sun May  2 20:26:39 2010
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 20:26:39 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM
In-Reply-To: <20100502.201428.24268.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100502.201428.24268.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4BDE183F.6030703@wowway.com>

gib at juno.com wrote:
> Everything seems to be accounted for.  Except, I have one canvas bag with blue stripes.
>   

I wondered where that went.  Bring it Saturday to the meeting.  I'll get
it then.

-- 
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We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it -- and stop there -- lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again, and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more. -Mark Twain
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From mat.enders at gmail.com  Mon May  3 14:28:50 2010
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (mat.enders at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 18:28:50 +0000
Subject: [mdlug] Fw: [WLUG] Mailman expert?
Message-ID: <9794984-1272911330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1072717385-@bda326.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

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From: Michael P. Monan
Sender: owner-linux-users at lugwash.org
To: linux-users
Subject: [WLUG] Mailman expert?
Sent: May 3, 2010 14:21

Hi all...

We're looking to pay someone for some hourly time for some mailman
augmentations... Anyone have any specific experience with the package and
interacting with it?

Thanks!

Mike Monan

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From Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com  Tue May  4 08:30:47 2010
From: Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com (Ingles, Raymond)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 08:30:47 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] PiTiVi
Message-ID: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5C8@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Apparently Ubuntu will be including this video editor with their default
install. I decided to give it a whirl and was reasonably impressed. It
allows you to mix video in, and export it out, in whatever formats
Linux's encoders can handle (which is nearly all of 'em). For clipping
and rearranging scenes, and dubbing over, it was very quick, simple, and
convenient.

As a quick test, I took this scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Tb9lin_sw

...and shuffled it, and spliced in some dialogue from a similar scene in
another movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDg9VEIgNzA

The result is not art, but it was very easy to produce. I plan on
experimenting with HD video soon, I'll let y'all know how it goes...

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles                                                (313)
227-2317

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      because goodness is of its very nature modest and retiring."
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From petertheplumber at att.net  Tue May  4 09:58:46 2010
From: petertheplumber at att.net (Peter Bart)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:58:46 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] PiTiVi
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5C8@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5C8@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <20100504095846.19b76583@Nokia-N800-43-7>

On Tue, 4 May 2010 08:30:47 -0400
"Ingles, Raymond" <Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com> wrote:

> Apparently Ubuntu will be including this video editor with their
> default install. I decided to give it a whirl and was reasonably
> impressed. It allows you to mix video in, and export it out, in
> whatever formats Linux's encoders can handle (which is nearly all of
> 'em). For clipping and rearranging scenes, and dubbing over, it was
> very quick, simple, and convenient.
> 
> As a quick test, I took this scene:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Tb9lin_sw
> 
> ...and shuffled it, and spliced in some dialogue from a similar scene
> in another movie:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDg9VEIgNzA
> 
> The result is not art, but it was very easy to produce. I plan on
> experimenting with HD video soon, I'll let y'all know how it goes...
> 
>  Sincerely,
> 
>  Ray Ingles    

    Thanks Ray, I need something like this!
-- 
Best Regards,

Peter The Plumber
Sent from a mobile Internet Tablet


From Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com  Tue May  4 10:26:31 2010
From: Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com (Ingles, Raymond)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 10:26:31 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] PiTiVi
In-Reply-To: <20100504095846.19b76583@Nokia-N800-43-7>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5C8@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	<20100504095846.19b76583@Nokia-N800-43-7>
Message-ID: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5FE@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>

> From: Peter Bart
>     Thanks Ray, I need something like this!

 Note, it's *not* really a full-fledged solution yet. For example, it
can do fade-ins, fade-outs, and crossfades, but no other transitions.
But for simple cutting and splicing of clips, it works very well.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles                                                (313)
227-2317

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    the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put
                     together." - Isaac Asimov

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From gib at juno.com  Sun May  2 09:10:10 2010
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 13:10:10 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM
Message-ID: <20100502.091010.6909.1@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>


Clean up is scheudled for 10AM today. Get your stuff.


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From petertheplumber at att.net  Tue May  4 11:11:16 2010
From: petertheplumber at att.net (Peter Bart)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 11:11:16 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] PiTiVi
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5FE@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5C8@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	<20100504095846.19b76583@Nokia-N800-43-7>
	<319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5FE@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <20100504111116.3509dc5d@Nokia-N800-43-7>

On Tue, 4 May 2010 10:26:31 -0400
"Ingles, Raymond" <Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com> wrote:

> > From: Peter Bart
> >     Thanks Ray, I need something like this!
> 
>  Note, it's *not* really a full-fledged solution yet. For example, it
> can do fade-ins, fade-outs, and crossfades, but no other transitions.
> But for simple cutting and splicing of clips, it works very well.
> 
    Ok thanks Ray. That should work very well for me. I just need to do very simple editing for the cocker spaniel rescue. For now it sounds like it'll work. Eventually I'm looking at adding titles and sound, but I'm not going to spend that kind of time right now. 
-- 
Best Regards,

Peter The Plumber
Sent from a mobile Internet Tablet


From carl at carltm.com  Tue May  4 19:09:53 2010
From: carl at carltm.com (Carl T. Miller)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:09:53 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Penguicon Room Party - MDLUG and SEMCO
In-Reply-To: <20100429.081652.21775.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100429.081652.21775.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <8b6d0a3d51f1be223aab0d14fac4fc46.squirrel@www.carltm.com>

gib at juno.com wrote:
> Thank you.  It was good to see all of you.

Hey, how did the party go?  I wanted to attend but had
to work most of the weekend.  What did I miss at penguicon?

c




From relson at osagesoftware.com  Wed May  5 17:42:30 2010
From: relson at osagesoftware.com (David Relson)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 17:42:30 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: embedded software engineers needed
Message-ID: <20100505174230.5bb41857@osage.osagesoftware.com>

G'day,

The company for which I work is looking to hire additional talented
embedded software engineers.  If you're interested, send your resume to
recruiting at asc-tech.com.

Regards,

David


From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Thu May  6 01:55:14 2010
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 01:55:14 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Penguicon Room Party - MDLUG and SEMCO
In-Reply-To: <8b6d0a3d51f1be223aab0d14fac4fc46.squirrel@www.carltm.com>
References: <20100429.081652.21775.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com>
	<8b6d0a3d51f1be223aab0d14fac4fc46.squirrel@www.carltm.com>
Message-ID: <4BE259C2.3060008@gmail.com>

Carl T. Miller wrote:
> gib at juno.com wrote:
>> Thank you.  It was good to see all of you.
> 
> Hey, how did the party go?  I wanted to attend but had
> to work most of the weekend.  What did I miss at penguicon?
> 

Other than the various women's gymnastics teams that
were staying there for some sort of event???












Just kidding.


From Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com  Thu May  6 10:12:45 2010
From: Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com (Ingles, Raymond)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 10:12:45 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
Message-ID: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>


 I'm planning on publishing a few Droid apps as time goes on. Some free,
some for a nominal charge. I don't anticipate making more than
pizza-and-beer money off them, but I want them to have a net presence
apart from my personal web page. So, I have a domain name selected that
I'm sure is not in use. I'd like some web space to host files and such,
but I wouldn't actually run e-commerce from it. I'd let the Android
Market handle that stuff.

 So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
Linux required, obviously. Thanks.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles                                             (313) 227-2317

  "Windows: The OS that makes you delete things to make them work."
                          Sinister Midget

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From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Thu May  6 10:42:55 2010
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 10:42:55 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] FYI: Parallels Desktop 4 for Windows & Linux $39.99 w/free
	shipping at Newegg until 1pm PDT
Message-ID: <v2tb02c40e91005060742g8fe07e72wc76a294844c4c2e4@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.newegg.com/special/shellshocker.aspx?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL050610&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL050610-_-EMC-050610-Index-_-MECH-_-ShellShocker-EB2B


From tesral at wowway.com  Thu May  6 11:58:32 2010
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 11:58:32 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <4BE2E728.8050606@wowway.com>

Ingles, Raymond wrote:
>  I'm planning on publishing a few Droid apps as time goes on. Some free,
> some for a nominal charge. I don't anticipate making more than
> pizza-and-beer money off them, but I want them to have a net presence
> apart from my personal web page. So, I have a domain name selected that
> I'm sure is not in use. I'd like some web space to host files and such,
> but I wouldn't actually run e-commerce from it. I'd let the Android
> Market handle that stuff.
>
>  So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
> Linux required, obviously. Thanks.
>   
Freeservers.  I've used them since 1997.


-- 
Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.

We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it -- and stop there -- lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again, and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more. -Mark Twain
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org



From GregWojtak at quickenloans.com  Thu May  6 13:39:29 2010
From: GregWojtak at quickenloans.com (Wojtak, Greg)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 13:39:29 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <9FB6372000B099469B46478B643EE46902268B273C@EXCCRVS1.mi.corp.rockfin.com>

The Linux Fix http://www.thelinuxfix.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org [mailto:mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org] On Behalf Of Ingles, Raymond
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:13 AM
To: MDLUG's Main discussion list
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?


 I'm planning on publishing a few Droid apps as time goes on. Some free,
some for a nominal charge. I don't anticipate making more than
pizza-and-beer money off them, but I want them to have a net presence
apart from my personal web page. So, I have a domain name selected that
I'm sure is not in use. I'd like some web space to host files and such,
but I wouldn't actually run e-commerce from it. I'd let the Android
Market handle that stuff.

 So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
Linux required, obviously. Thanks.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles                                             (313) 227-2317

  "Windows: The OS that makes you delete things to make them work."
                          Sinister Midget

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From micorral at comcast.net  Fri May  7 16:54:49 2010
From: micorral at comcast.net (Michael Corral)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 16:54:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005071648500.2509@banana.sluggo.net>

2010-05-06, Monsieur Ingles, Raymond a ecrit:
> So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
> Linux required, obviously.

I use IX Web Hosting: http://www.ixwebhosting.com
They use Linux servers.

Michael


From box at blogdetroit.com  Mon May 10 07:29:36 2010
From: box at blogdetroit.com (marytee)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 07:29:36 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <4BE7EE20.8050306@blogdetroit.com>

Ray, I use 1and1 (1and1.com).  They have Linux servers and I have been 
very satisfied with their support--they have been quick to respond to 
questions and resolve any issues I have had.

I don't know if they're the cheapest kid on the block but you can check 
that out.

Mary

On 05/06/2010 10:12 AM, Ingles, Raymond wrote:
>   I'm planning on publishing a few Droid apps as time goes on. Some free,
> some for a nominal charge. I don't anticipate making more than
> pizza-and-beer money off them, but I want them to have a net presence
> apart from my personal web page. So, I have a domain name selected that
> I'm sure is not in use. I'd like some web space to host files and such,
> but I wouldn't actually run e-commerce from it. I'd let the Android
> Market handle that stuff.
>
>   So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
> Linux required, obviously. Thanks.
>
>   Sincerely,
>
>   Ray Ingles                                             (313) 227-2317
>
>    "Windows: The OS that makes you delete things to make them work."
>                            Sinister Midget
>
> The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
>
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From blubdog at gmail.com  Mon May 10 09:31:22 2010
From: blubdog at gmail.com (Bruce Smith)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 09:31:22 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <4BE7EE20.8050306@blogdetroit.com>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	<4BE7EE20.8050306@blogdetroit.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimEhPHuZ9iYZB0jyts3KwqJK3cW-R-6JmFxJ-oN@mail.gmail.com>

>>   So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
>> Linux required, obviously. Thanks.

I use the godaddy.com Linux plan, and I'm happy so far.

I have their upgraded plan for $7/month (cheaper if you prepay).
It allows me to host multiple domains/sites on the same plan (shared bandwidth).

And the thing that sold me was you also get SSH access!  Most others
don't allow that.  It's sure nice to be able to ssh into the server
and 'mv' a large file or directories to a new location, instead of
having to re-upload it with FTP to the new location.  Or un'tar files,
or make backup copies of directories with doing upgrades, etc.

 - BS


From cvweiss at gmail.com  Mon May 10 09:35:21 2010
From: cvweiss at gmail.com (Clinton V. Weiss)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 09:35:21 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <4BE7EE20.8050306@blogdetroit.com>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	<4BE7EE20.8050306@blogdetroit.com>
Message-ID: <o2lf0e9fe591005100635wabb925a1s225f397835bee855@mail.gmail.com>

I may be a bit late on this thread, however, I have one question.  Can
anyone recommend a web host that provides Varnish as an option without
forcing the customer to resort to a VPS?

-- 
Clinton V. Weiss
cvweiss at gmail.com


From radkins at impelind.com  Mon May 10 14:24:12 2010
From: radkins at impelind.com (Robert Adkins II)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:24:12 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
Message-ID: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>

The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
 
What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
 
Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
again, until it happens again.
 
I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior and I
believe most of it is how he uses the application.
 
He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on end as
a method of keeping track of what he is up to.
 
The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the application
and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving multiple
Outlook windows open for days on end.
 
Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself, such
as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on the
server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.
 
I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening shortly
after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two back.
 
Regards,
Rob


From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Mon May 10 17:37:02 2010
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 17:37:02 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Robert Adkins II <radkins at impelind.com> wrote:
> The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
>
> What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
> through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
>
> Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
> again, until it happens again.
>
> I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior and I
> believe most of it is how he uses the application.
>
> He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on end as
> a method of keeping track of what he is up to.
>
> The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
> creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the application
> and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving multiple
> Outlook windows open for days on end.
>
> Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself, such
> as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
> emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on the
> server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.
>
> I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening shortly
> after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two back.
>

Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates persistently open windows.

> Regards,
> Rob
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>


From radkins at impelind.com  Mon May 10 18:09:43 2010
From: radkins at impelind.com (Robert Adkins II)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 18:09:43 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
	<AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6DD525F6842E47B9B5C314A5253D5797@Delta7>


> >
> 
> Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates 
> persistently open windows.
> 

  If I was living in a "world" where using Mozilla Seamonkey was an option,
I would be. The problem is, the boss believes that "Everyone" uses Outlook
and that it somehow creates perfectly "beautiful" emails and that if he uses
something else, the formatting will be all "messed up" and look
unprofessional.

  No, it matters not one whit that I have showed him extended header
information that displays the fact that the majority of our customer base
actually utilizes a variety of different email clients.

  This position, is not a position reached via reasoning out the pros and
cons, therefor is isn't one that can be reasoned out of.

	-Rob



From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Mon May 10 19:50:45 2010
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 19:50:45 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikpxHYr2SxCeWZQIUDOicvDkFllvzlLB773djz_@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Robert Adkins II <radkins at impelind.com> wrote:
> The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
>
> What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
> through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
>
> Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
> again, until it happens again.
>

Is he using an Exchange server, POP3, or IMAP?  It could be a server
authentication issue.

> I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior and I
> believe most of it is how he uses the application.
>
> He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on end as
> a method of keeping track of what he is up to.
>
> The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
> creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the application
> and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving multiple
> Outlook windows open for days on end.
>

> Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself, such
> as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
> emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on the
> server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.
>
> I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening shortly
> after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two back.
>

Not necessarily unless your boss is having the same issue.  It could
also be interference from another application messing with the
clipboard (or malware).


From radkins at impelind.com  Tue May 11 08:06:25 2010
From: radkins at impelind.com (Robert Adkins II)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 08:06:25 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikpxHYr2SxCeWZQIUDOicvDkFllvzlLB773djz_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
	<AANLkTikpxHYr2SxCeWZQIUDOicvDkFllvzlLB773djz_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F0F05409D5344B939F7158643FDAB672@Delta7>

> 
> Is he using an Exchange server, POP3, or IMAP?  It could be a 
> server authentication issue.
> 

	It's not a server authentication issue, Outlook just simply stops
sending out email. This usually happens after about a week of leaving the
application open with upwards of 30 individual emails open.

	-Rob



From tesral at wowway.com  Tue May 11 14:30:49 2010
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:30:49 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Job security
Message-ID: <4BE9A259.5080506@wowway.com>

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20100511

-- 
Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.

We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it -- and stop there -- lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again, and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more. -Mark Twain
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org



From audiotech50 at gmail.com  Tue May 11 23:03:19 2010
From: audiotech50 at gmail.com (Michael Rudas)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 23:03:19 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Job security
In-Reply-To: <4BE9A259.5080506@wowway.com>
References: <4BE9A259.5080506@wowway.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTile5j6hA2yDm82TcF7pdVoa-pFDlyuhYStPdv57@mail.gmail.com>

--- Garry Stahl wrote:

> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20100511

I have personally seen something much like this in action.  It's a lot
harder to do in Linux, but probably not impossible. :-)

~~ Michael Rudas
   My home page: http://MRudas.2Ya.com
   My software blog: http://FaveSoft.blogspot.com
   My Protopage links: http://TinyURL.com/protop
   http://www.Facebook.com/ScienceMikey


From gib at juno.com  Wed May 12 10:44:27 2010
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 14:44:27 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] Target has the $50 IM tool called zipit - hack to run Linux
Message-ID: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>

 
I our meeting Saturday we saw some folks with a zipit.  A $50 device they got from Target intended for teen IM.  But they said they were able to run Linux on it. 
http://www.target.com/dp/B00115PR2O/ref=sc_qi_img_viewdetails?ie=UTF8&title=view%20full%20details
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From carl at carltm.com  Wed May 12 18:35:20 2010
From: carl at carltm.com (Carl T. Miller)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:35:20 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Target has the $50 IM tool called zipit - hack to run
 Linux
In-Reply-To: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <3f40339f3c7ecb1afe16f55e36342629.squirrel@www.carltm.com>

It looks fun, but does it have a full keyboard?  I mean
can you type in all the characters of a full keyboard?

c


gib at juno.com wrote:
>
> I our meeting Saturday we saw some folks with a zipit.  A $50 device they
> got from Target intended for teen IM.  But they said they were able to run
> Linux on it.
> http://www.target.com/dp/B00115PR2O/ref=sc_qi_img_viewdetails?ie=UTF8&title=view%20full%20details
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From radkins at impelind.com  Thu May 13 08:16:32 2010
From: radkins at impelind.com (Robert Adkins II)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 08:16:32 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Target has the $50 IM tool called zipit - hack to run
	Linux
In-Reply-To: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <BED1D8104D184E8ABCD6FF86B13BE807@Delta7>

Wow, they don't even seem to want to pay for a hand model.

They used a cgi hand to provide a "representative" look at the size of the
device.

-Rob

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org 
> [mailto:mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org] On Behalf Of gib at juno.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:44 AM
> To: mdlug at mdlug.org
> Subject: [mdlug] Target has the $50 IM tool called zipit - 
> hack to run Linux
> 
>  
> I our meeting Saturday we saw some folks with a zipit.  A $50 
> device they got from Target intended for teen IM.  But they 
> said they were able to run Linux on it. 
> http://www.target.com/dp/B00115PR2O/ref=sc_qi_img_viewdetails?
> ie=UTF8&title=view%20full%20details
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From tesral at wowway.com  Thu May 13 10:51:32 2010
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:51:32 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Target has the $50 IM tool called zipit - hack to run
 Linux
In-Reply-To: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4BEC11F4.7020203@wowway.com>

gib at juno.com wrote:
>  
> I our meeting Saturday we saw some folks with a zipit.  A $50 device they got from Target intended for teen IM.  But they said they were able to run Linux on it. 
>   
It was a cute toy.  Way to small for my fingers.


-- 
Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.

We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it -- and stop there -- lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again, and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more. -Mark Twain
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org



From gib at juno.com  Thu May 13 19:59:27 2010
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:59:27 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] FYI: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
Message-ID: <20100513.195927.9413.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>


FYI

Please note: forwarded message attached

From: "Sean Esfarayeni" <Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com>
To: <president at mdlug.org>,<vp at mdlug.org>
Subject: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:07:06 -0600


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You are invited to join technical experts from Novell for a demonstration and interactive discussion session covering such areas as:
 
SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP1 
SUSE Studio 
Virtualization and cloud computing with Linux 
High availability and disaster recovery solutions from Novell
 
The below attachment has more information and the link for registration to this event.
Kindly forward this to your user group members and we look forward to see you at the event.
 
Best regards,
 
 
 
Sean Esfarayeni
Territory Manager
Novell
416-203-4684

Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com
 
Novell provides a fast, affordable, and complete recovery solution in a single, totally self-contained appliance, check it out here http://www.novell.com/products/forge/
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From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Thu May 13 21:13:06 2010
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 21:13:06 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] FYI: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
In-Reply-To: <20100513.195927.9413.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100513.195927.9413.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinX-d6QX0gSjuRu2sTf9wszLi_xF8V-nX6XWnoE@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, gib at juno.com <gib at juno.com> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
> Please note: forwarded message attached
>
> From: "Sean Esfarayeni" <Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com>
> To: <president at mdlug.org>,<vp at mdlug.org>
> Subject: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:07:06 -0600
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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>
> Greetings,
>
> You are invited to join technical experts from Novell for a demonstration and interactive discussion session covering such areas as:
>
> SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP1
> SUSE Studio
> Virtualization and cloud computing with Linux
> High availability and disaster recovery solutions from Novell
>
> The below attachment has more information and the link for registration to this event.
> Kindly forward this to your user group members and we look forward to see you at the event.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Sean Esfarayeni
> Territory Manager
> Novell
> 416-203-4684
>
> Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com
>
> Novell provides a fast, affordable, and complete recovery solution in a single, totally self-contained appliance, check it out here http://www.novell.com/products/forge/
>
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>

Registration link:
https://register.novell.com/simple/?event_id=26718&lcode=enu


From smunro622 at gmail.com  Thu May 13 21:31:59 2010
From: smunro622 at gmail.com (stuart munro)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 21:31:59 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] FYI: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinX-d6QX0gSjuRu2sTf9wszLi_xF8V-nX6XWnoE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100513.195927.9413.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>
	<AANLkTinX-d6QX0gSjuRu2sTf9wszLi_xF8V-nX6XWnoE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13046B8B-25F5-4812-B2DC-CE453CA1AA6F@gmail.com>

is this may 25@ marriott rencen in detroit as i got a call today to attend...


On May 13, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Jeff Hanson wrote:

> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, gib at juno.com <gib at juno.com> wrote:
>> 
>> FYI
>> 
>> Please note: forwarded message attached
>> 
>> From: "Sean Esfarayeni" <Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com>
>> To: <president at mdlug.org>,<vp at mdlug.org>
>> Subject: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
>> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:07:06 -0600
>> 
>> 
>> ____________________________________________________________
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>> Sign up for Free to find out what the next 3000% Stock Winner Is!
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bec92bb928e4425ad3st04vuc
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> You are invited to join technical experts from Novell for a demonstration and interactive discussion session covering such areas as:
>> 
>> SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP1
>> SUSE Studio
>> Virtualization and cloud computing with Linux
>> High availability and disaster recovery solutions from Novell
>> 
>> The below attachment has more information and the link for registration to this event.
>> Kindly forward this to your user group members and we look forward to see you at the event.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sean Esfarayeni
>> Territory Manager
>> Novell
>> 416-203-4684
>> 
>> Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com
>> 
>> Novell provides a fast, affordable, and complete recovery solution in a single, totally self-contained appliance, check it out here http://www.novell.com/products/forge/
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> mdlug mailing list
>> mdlug at mdlug.org
>> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>> 
> 
> Registration link:
> https://register.novell.com/simple/?event_id=26718&lcode=enu
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug



From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Thu May 13 23:03:12 2010
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:03:12 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <6DD525F6842E47B9B5C314A5253D5797@Delta7>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>	<AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
	<6DD525F6842E47B9B5C314A5253D5797@Delta7>
Message-ID: <4BECBD70.10306@gmail.com>

Robert Adkins II wrote:
>> Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates 
>> persistently open windows.
>>
> 
>   If I was living in a "world" where using Mozilla Seamonkey was an option,
> I would be. The problem is, the boss believes that "Everyone" uses Outlook
> and that it somehow creates perfectly "beautiful" emails and that if he uses
> something else, the formatting will be all "messed up" and look
> unprofessional.
> 
>   No, it matters not one whit that I have showed him extended header
> information that displays the fact that the majority of our customer base
> actually utilizes a variety of different email clients.
> 
>   This position, is not a position reached via reasoning out the pros and
> cons, therefor is isn't one that can be reasoned out of.

Ah..
Emotional decisions (products of the Microsoft marketing department)
need to be attacked via emotional paths.  Learn covert hypnosis methods.



From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Thu May 13 23:05:25 2010
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:05:25 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <F0F05409D5344B939F7158643FDAB672@Delta7>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>	<AANLkTikpxHYr2SxCeWZQIUDOicvDkFllvzlLB773djz_@mail.gmail.com>
	<F0F05409D5344B939F7158643FDAB672@Delta7>
Message-ID: <4BECBDF5.4090100@gmail.com>

Robert Adkins II wrote:
>> Is he using an Exchange server, POP3, or IMAP?  It could be a 
>> server authentication issue.
>>
> 
> 	It's not a server authentication issue, Outlook just simply stops
> sending out email. This usually happens after about a week of leaving the
> application open with upwards of 30 individual emails open.

When he starts FEELING BAD about it, he'll look for a better solution.

I would suggest putting Seamonkey on other people's machines, and your
own, of course.

And then when he complains, act like he's crazy, and go around the
shop, asking everyone if they're having problems with THEIR email
client.

Generate ENVY.

Finally, when HE'S FED UP WITH NOT HAVING what his subordinates have
(and which works better), he'll switch.


From radkins at impelind.com  Fri May 14 08:40:26 2010
From: radkins at impelind.com (Robert Adkins II)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:40:26 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <4BECBDF5.4090100@gmail.com>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>	<AANLkTikpxHYr2SxCeWZQIUDOicvDkFllvzlLB773djz_@mail.gmail.com><F0F05409D5344B939F7158643FDAB672@Delta7>
	<4BECBDF5.4090100@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A21E1B071CAF4E4680E4625409F36687@Delta7>


> 
> Robert Adkins II wrote:
> >> Is he using an Exchange server, POP3, or IMAP?  It could 
> be a server 
> >> authentication issue.
> >>
> > 
> > 	It's not a server authentication issue, Outlook just 
> simply stops 
> > sending out email. This usually happens after about a week 
> of leaving 
> > the application open with upwards of 30 individual emails open.
> 
> When he starts FEELING BAD about it, he'll look for a better solution.
> 
> I would suggest putting Seamonkey on other people's machines, 
> and your own, of course.
> 
> And then when he complains, act like he's crazy, and go 
> around the shop, asking everyone if they're having problems 
> with THEIR email client.
> 
> Generate ENVY.
> 
> Finally, when HE'S FED UP WITH NOT HAVING what his 
> subordinates have (and which works better), he'll switch.
> _______________________________________________

	That won't work either. That's been part of the plan for going on 6
years now. He's always had minor issues here and there with Outlook, mostly
related to having his .pst file hover around 4gb in size.

	-Rob



From awilliam at opengroupware.us  Fri May 14 09:04:46 2010
From: awilliam at opengroupware.us (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 09:04:46 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
	<AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1273842286.12660.3.camel@linux-yu4c.site>

On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:37 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Robert Adkins II <radkins at impelind.com> wrote:
> > The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
> > What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
> > through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
> > Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
> > again, until it happens again.
> > I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior and I
> > believe most of it is how he uses the application.
> > He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on end as
> > a method of keeping track of what he is up to.

Perhaps you can just show him the feature of how to turn an e-mail
message into a to-do item?

> > The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
> > creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the application
> > and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving multiple
> > Outlook windows open for days on end.

That seems like a reasonable guess to me.

> > Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself, such
> > as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
> > emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on the
> > server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.

Have you looked int he workstations event log to see if there are any
application errors being logged?

> > I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening shortly
> > after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two back.
> Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates persistently open windows.

I know it is an extremely unpopular thing to say, but: Seriously?
Thunderbird (which is all Seamonkey is) is hardly a stellar example of
an e-mail client.  On Windows I'd choose Outlook over TB anyday.  The
popularity of Thunderbird is unfathomable; it is slow, not really all
that featureful - and butt ugly. 



From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Fri May 14 09:56:37 2010
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 09:56:37 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <1273842286.12660.3.camel@linux-yu4c.site>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
	<AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1273842286.12660.3.camel@linux-yu4c.site>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxgC2ZPZ_3b5mBHhLvhnQbDRmCNknov86KfMdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thunderbird is not equivalent to Outlook.  It is more an equivalent to
Outlook Express (which was supposed to be killed off 10 years ago).
Evolution is a closer match to Outlook.

A 4GB mailbox is something that should be on an Exchange server but
setting up the Outlook archive function with a separate pst store
would probably improve performance and possibly solve the problem.

On 5/14/10, Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam at opengroupware.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:37 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Robert Adkins II <radkins at impelind.com>
>> wrote:
>> > The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
>> > What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
>> > through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
>> > Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
>> > again, until it happens again.
>> > I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior
>> > and I
>> > believe most of it is how he uses the application.
>> > He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on
>> > end as
>> > a method of keeping track of what he is up to.
>
> Perhaps you can just show him the feature of how to turn an e-mail
> message into a to-do item?
>
>> > The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
>> > creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the
>> > application
>> > and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving
>> > multiple
>> > Outlook windows open for days on end.
>
> That seems like a reasonable guess to me.
>
>> > Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself,
>> > such
>> > as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
>> > emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on
>> > the
>> > server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.
>
> Have you looked int he workstations event log to see if there are any
> application errors being logged?
>
>> > I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening
>> > shortly
>> > after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two
>> > back.
>> Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates persistently open
>> windows.
>
> I know it is an extremely unpopular thing to say, but: Seriously?
> Thunderbird (which is all Seamonkey is) is hardly a stellar example of
> an e-mail client.  On Windows I'd choose Outlook over TB anyday.  The
> popularity of Thunderbird is unfathomable; it is slow, not really all
> that featureful - and butt ugly.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Fri May 14 13:19:49 2010
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:19:49 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <1273842286.12660.3.camel@linux-yu4c.site>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>	<AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1273842286.12660.3.camel@linux-yu4c.site>
Message-ID: <4BED8635.1080606@gmail.com>

Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:37 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Robert Adkins II <radkins at impelind.com> wrote:
>>> The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
>>> What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
>>> through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
>>> Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
>>> again, until it happens again.
>>> I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior and I
>>> believe most of it is how he uses the application.
>>> He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on end as
>>> a method of keeping track of what he is up to.
> 
> Perhaps you can just show him the feature of how to turn an e-mail
> message into a to-do item?
> 
>>> The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
>>> creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the application
>>> and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving multiple
>>> Outlook windows open for days on end.
> 
> That seems like a reasonable guess to me.
> 
>>> Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself, such
>>> as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
>>> emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on the
>>> server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.
> 
> Have you looked int he workstations event log to see if there are any
> application errors being logged?
> 
>>> I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening shortly
>>> after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two back.
>> Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates persistently open windows.
> 
> I know it is an extremely unpopular thing to say, but: Seriously?
> Thunderbird (which is all Seamonkey is) is hardly a stellar example of
> an e-mail client.  On Windows I'd choose Outlook over TB anyday.  The
> popularity of Thunderbird is unfathomable; it is slow, not really all
> that featureful - and butt ugly.

Used Thunderbird for about a week, went back to Seamonkey.

They are NOT the same thing.


From smunro622 at gmail.com  Fri May 14 22:57:36 2010
From: smunro622 at gmail.com (stuart munro)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 22:57:36 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] FYI: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinX-d6QX0gSjuRu2sTf9wszLi_xF8V-nX6XWnoE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100513.195927.9413.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>
	<AANLkTinX-d6QX0gSjuRu2sTf9wszLi_xF8V-nX6XWnoE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2E3AB3DD-E1FC-4581-9435-E26A4C8EF5FC@gmail.com>

is this may 25@ marriott rencen in detroit as i got a call today to attend...


On May 13, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Jeff Hanson wrote:

> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, gib at juno.com <gib at juno.com> wrote:
>> 
>> FYI
>> 
>> Please note: forwarded message attached
>> 
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>> To: <president at mdlug.org>,<vp at mdlug.org>
>> Subject: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
>> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:07:06 -0600
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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From fulner at gmail.com  Tue May 18 10:47:00 2010
From: fulner at gmail.com (Robert Jim Fulner)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:47:00 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Clonezilla
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinyLXhcUKoLjc9VHzgJal0iCjbF3VpKx70PO6c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinyLXhcUKoLjc9VHzgJal0iCjbF3VpKx70PO6c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim0kPuhcmS3TNcLzzLSlOUpa6DOoMFwhomUnnJD@mail.gmail.com>

So I finally figured out why this wasn't posting the the mailing list, as I
had changed my email address a while back for reasons I dont' remeber. As
such when sending from my phone it only sends from my default GMAIL account,
I switched that setting back.

Now, on to my orginal inquiry!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:45 AM
Subject: Clonezilla
To: MDLUG <mdlug at mdlug.org>


I tried to send this a few days ago and I think it got eaten. Maybe I had
too many FWD/RE/ATTACH connected, so here we go again with just my message.

So I'm really bad about planning on doing something and then never got
around to doing it.

I downloaded clonezilla months ago and finally tried to back up my xplaptop
tonight.

I didn't fully understand some of the options, not sure if its still my lack
of geek cred, or the poorly translated clonezilla, especially when it came
to trying to do something with the /home/partimg/ directory.

Just to recap what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to back up the hard disk on
my laptop before I start f'n around with trying various partions and what
have you, even if I elect not to truly dual boot, backup should still be a
good idea. I'm hoping I can create the img store it on a flash drive, then
transfer that img to my wifes gigantic alienware hard disk.

Anyway back to my error, after going through all the options, not completley
understanding them, nor seeing any choices that looked like my flash drivr I
went ahead with the default settings and now I get this error:

/home/partimg is full! No space left on device! The saved image file
/home/partimg/nameofimage/sda2.ntfs-ptcl-img.gz is in complete! You have to
increase the disk space then start clonezilla save mode again!

Any insight you think would be helpful is greatly appreciated.

Jim Fulner
Sent from my GNU SmartPhone.Please dismiss not-so-smart typos.
- Show quoted text -


From mark.stanislav at gmail.com  Tue May 18 10:52:01 2010
From: mark.stanislav at gmail.com (Mark Stanislav)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:52:01 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Clonezilla
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim0kPuhcmS3TNcLzzLSlOUpa6DOoMFwhomUnnJD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinyLXhcUKoLjc9VHzgJal0iCjbF3VpKx70PO6c3@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTim0kPuhcmS3TNcLzzLSlOUpa6DOoMFwhomUnnJD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_EoY4eMqq3_zknGw0R-YiwsO-Nyb8Zet5_-TX@mail.gmail.com>

To clarify, "/home/partimg is full! No space left on device" -- did
you actually mount your drive correctly to /home/partimg before
continuing? Also, is the drive formatted with a filesystem allowing
for a disk image large enough to fit on there? i.e. probably not
FAT-32.

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com> wrote:
> So I finally figured out why this wasn't posting the the mailing list, as I
> had changed my email address a while back for reasons I dont' remeber. As
> such when sending from my phone it only sends from my default GMAIL account,
> I switched that setting back.
>
> Now, on to my orginal inquiry!
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:45 AM
> Subject: Clonezilla
> To: MDLUG <mdlug at mdlug.org>
>
>
> I tried to send this a few days ago and I think it got eaten. Maybe I had
> too many FWD/RE/ATTACH connected, so here we go again with just my message.
>
> So I'm really bad about planning on doing something and then never got
> around to doing it.
>
> I downloaded clonezilla months ago and finally tried to back up my xplaptop
> tonight.
>
> I didn't fully understand some of the options, not sure if its still my lack
> of geek cred, or the poorly translated clonezilla, especially when it came
> to trying to do something with the /home/partimg/ directory.
>
> Just to recap what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to back up the hard disk on
> my laptop before I start f'n around with trying various partions and what
> have you, even if I elect not to truly dual boot, backup should still be a
> good idea. I'm hoping I can create the img store it on a flash drive, then
> transfer that img to my wifes gigantic alienware hard disk.
>
> Anyway back to my error, after going through all the options, not completley
> understanding them, nor seeing any choices that looked like my flash drivr I
> went ahead with the default settings and now I get this error:
>
> /home/partimg is full! No space left on device! The saved image file
> /home/partimg/nameofimage/sda2.ntfs-ptcl-img.gz is in complete! You have to
> increase the disk space then start clonezilla save mode again!
>
> Any insight you think would be helpful is greatly appreciated.
>
> Jim Fulner
> Sent from my GNU SmartPhone.Please dismiss not-so-smart typos.
> - Show quoted text -
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>


From mat.enders at gmail.com  Tue May 18 11:37:38 2010
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (mat.enders at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:37:38 +0000
Subject: [mdlug] Clonezilla
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim0kPuhcmS3TNcLzzLSlOUpa6DOoMFwhomUnnJD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinyLXhcUKoLjc9VHzgJal0iCjbF3VpKx70PO6c3@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTim0kPuhcmS3TNcLzzLSlOUpa6DOoMFwhomUnnJD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1810938209-1274197058-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-697060285-@bda326.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

It sounds like you tried to put an image of the disk on the same disk. This will never work. You need to boot some type of live disk Ubuntu if the machine in question is Linux or UBCD4Win if it is windows if it is a Mac I do not have a suggestion. Once you are in the rescue disks environment mount the hard drive of the machine and delete the image file. All should be well then. I user Clonezilla all of the time. If you want the image on your wife's machine then create a share on your wife's machine and then create the image across the network there. 
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:47:00 
To: MDLUG<mdlug at mdlug.org>
Subject: [mdlug] Clonezilla

So I finally figured out why this wasn't posting the the mailing list, as I
had changed my email address a while back for reasons I dont' remeber. As
such when sending from my phone it only sends from my default GMAIL account,
I switched that setting back.

Now, on to my orginal inquiry!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:45 AM
Subject: Clonezilla
To: MDLUG <mdlug at mdlug.org>


I tried to send this a few days ago and I think it got eaten. Maybe I had
too many FWD/RE/ATTACH connected, so here we go again with just my message.

So I'm really bad about planning on doing something and then never got
around to doing it.

I downloaded clonezilla months ago and finally tried to back up my xplaptop
tonight.

I didn't fully understand some of the options, not sure if its still my lack
of geek cred, or the poorly translated clonezilla, especially when it came
to trying to do something with the /home/partimg/ directory.

Just to recap what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to back up the hard disk on
my laptop before I start f'n around with trying various partions and what
have you, even if I elect not to truly dual boot, backup should still be a
good idea. I'm hoping I can create the img store it on a flash drive, then
transfer that img to my wifes gigantic alienware hard disk.

Anyway back to my error, after going through all the options, not completley
understanding them, nor seeing any choices that looked like my flash drivr I
went ahead with the default settings and now I get this error:

/home/partimg is full! No space left on device! The saved image file
/home/partimg/nameofimage/sda2.ntfs-ptcl-img.gz is in complete! You have to
increase the disk space then start clonezilla save mode again!

Any insight you think would be helpful is greatly appreciated.

Jim Fulner
Sent from my GNU SmartPhone.Please dismiss not-so-smart typos.
- Show quoted text -
_______________________________________________
mdlug mailing list
mdlug at mdlug.org
http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug

From fulner at gmail.com  Tue May 18 19:37:14 2010
From: fulner at gmail.com (Robert Jim Fulner)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:37:14 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Clonezilla
Message-ID: <AANLkTimNkI7r8Mvp6uBqg6KRtfLoJYTNcdy4Qpx1mM8n@mail.gmail.com>

-- did
>you actually mount your drive correctly to /home/partimg before

I'd guess not! Am I using this wrong? I'm trying to back up my XP top
(NTFS) I'm running Clonezilla off a FAT32 flash drive, for some reason
I though I'd be able to create the back up image on the same Flash and
store the image somewhere else later.

>>>If you want the image on your wife's machine then create a share on your wife's machine and then create the image across the network there.

Hmmm...looks like my horrendous networking skills strike again! I'm
still plugging which ever PC i need to print into the printer cuz I
can't fiure it out! And I provide free Wi-Fi to (and potentinal
destruction from) my neighbors because I can't seem to find an
encrypition that all of our wirless devices support that doesn't cause
my Linksys router to get mad and want to be reset regularly. (I know I
should be paying for better hardware, but that's not an optoin at this
time).


**
--
Jim Fulner
The DetroitLibertyPenguin
Promoting Free Minds, Free Markets and Free Software


*and whenever possible Free Beer
*"For as long as one of your brothers is not free, none of you are free"
248-765-7458 (cell)
http://www.facebook.com/jim.fulner


From petertheplumber at att.net  Sun May 23 14:12:40 2010
From: petertheplumber at att.net (Peter Bart)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 14:12:40 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Asus T91MT Ubuntu UNR 10.04 Multi Touch Help
Message-ID: <1274638360.8108.188.camel@plumber-notebook.site>

Hello Everyone,
	I'm trying to get the Asus's touchscreen working with multi touch. Ive
seen various howto's using Ubuntu UNR 9.10 and single touch. I will
revert to that if multi touch simply won't work. Since I'm not actually
using the Asus yet, I thought I'd give it a shot. Hope for the best and
maybe get to write a howto myself.
	The most promising and detailed instructions I've found are here
<http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/xorg.html>. I've got a fresh
install of UNR 10.04 on the Asus, with kernel source and headers. I've
partitioned it as follows: /=10gb, /boot=250mb, /swap=4gb on a memory
card inserted in the semi permanent slot, /home=the balance of the ssd.
According to the directions I need  kernel 2.6.31 or later, I have
2.6.32-22. According to the bottom of
<http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/linux-howto.html>, Ubuntu 10.04
is a 2.6.32 with some added support for multi touch. Basically, what was
added is the set of drivers that was available in 2.6.34-rc1. So that's
good, I don't need the drivers. The X.org version needs to be X11R7.5,
UNR 10.04 has 1:7.5+ubuntu1 (lucid), I think that meets the requirement?
Then I get the X.org evdev driver and multitouch management client. I
think <http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/xorg.html> is where I
start, then I move on to the Ubuntu 10.04 procedure at the bottom of
<http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/linux-howto.html>. Then I finish
at <http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/xorg-howto.html>. According
to Linux howto page, hid needs to be a module, not a static part of the
kernel. It goes on to say that if I
have /lib/modules/2.6.xxx/kernel/drivers/hid/hid.ko, hid is indeed a
module. So far so good; I think; because I
have /lib/modules/2.6.xxx/kernel/drivers/hid/hid.ko. This is where I'm
getting lost. The sentence: "In the following, '/' means the root of
your source tree and '//' the root of your file system." throws me. I'm
supposed to edit /include/linux/hid.h, I found it
at /usr/include/linux/hid.h. Is that the one I'm supposed to
edit? /usr/include/linux/hid.h does not have the lines I'm looking for.
I can't seem to quite wrap my head around the instructions:
"in /include/linux/hid.h, change the end of the macro
IS_INPUT_APPLICATION to (a >= 0xd0002 && a <= 0xd0006).
  * in our hid-core.c, take the lines that refer to your hardware (check
    for MOSART, QUANTA, STANTUM or 3M) and put them
    in /drivers/hid/hid-core.c, replacing lines if necessary." I can't
    find /drivers/hid/hid-core.c. I'm stuck, can someone help get me
    moving again?
-- 
Best Regards,

Peter The Plumber



From tony at bemushosting.com  Sun May 23 15:04:03 2010
From: tony at bemushosting.com (tony at bemushosting.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 15:04:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [mdlug] Mdlug.org,  is it working for anyone else?
Message-ID: <879114430.817420.1274641443241.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw08.schlund.de>

Mdlug.org,?is it working for anyone else?
?
I was trying to do some work on the server but wasn't able to connect.? Is the
website working for anyone?
?
?
Tony

From petertheplumber at att.net  Sun May 23 19:58:59 2010
From: petertheplumber at att.net (Peter Bart)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:58:59 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Mdlug.org,  is it working for anyone else?
In-Reply-To: <879114430.817420.1274641443241.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw08.schlund.de>
References: <879114430.817420.1274641443241.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw08.schlund.de>
Message-ID: <1274659139.4953.5.camel@plumber-notebook.site>

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 15:04 -0400, tony at bemushosting.com wrote:
> Mdlug.org, is it working for anyone else?
>  
> I was trying to do some work on the server but wasn't able to connect.  Is the
> website working for anyone?
>  
	I can see and browse the website. A post to the mailing list takes
several hours to show up.
-- 
Best Regards,

Peter The Plumber



From petertheplumber at att.net  Sun May 23 20:00:54 2010
From: petertheplumber at att.net (Peter Bart)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:00:54 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Mdlug.org,  is it working for anyone else?
In-Reply-To: <1274659139.4953.5.camel@plumber-notebook.site>
References: <879114430.817420.1274641443241.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw08.schlund.de>
	<1274659139.4953.5.camel@plumber-notebook.site>
Message-ID: <1274659254.4953.6.camel@plumber-notebook.site>

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 19:58 -0400, Peter Bart wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 15:04 -0400, tony at bemushosting.com wrote:
> > Mdlug.org, is it working for anyone else?
> >  
> > I was trying to do some work on the server but wasn't able to connect.  Is the
> > website working for anyone?
> >  
> 	I can see and browse the website. A post to the mailing list takes
> several hours to show up.
	Ok, did take several hours to show up. Now almost instantly
-- 
Best Regards,

Peter The Plumber



From matthew at lechleider.com  Mon May 24 09:32:29 2010
From: matthew at lechleider.com (Matthew Lechleider)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:32:29 -0500
Subject: [mdlug] DrupalCamp Chicago 2010: June 26-27
Message-ID: <4BFA7FED.5060308@lechleider.com>

CDMUG is proud to present our 3rd annual DrupalCamp Chicago Saturday and 
Sunday, June 26th and 27th, 2010!

Register @ http://drupalcampchicago.org

Price: $40.00

Where/When:

University of Chicago Law School
1111 East 60th Street
Chicago, IL 60637-2776
Saturday, June 26th, 2010, 8 am - 5 pm
Sunday, June 27th, 2010, 8 am - 5 pm

Who/Why:

For almost 4 years the Chicago Drupal Meet Up Group has highlighted the 
benefits of an open source initiative. We have built resourceful bridges 
between Chicago and Mid-West establishments including non-profits, 
entrepreneurs, Drupal development companies, independent consultants, 
hobbyist, and more. The objective of DrupalCamp is to bring everyone 
together for open communication, education, industry networking, and 
most importantly fun.

What:

An attendee-driven format with advanced resources available makes this 
event unique. Need help with a problem, looking for work, or looking to 
hire Drupal talent? Find someone with a solution at DrupalCamp Chicago.
Multiple presentations addressing beginners through advanced developers 
will run simultaneously throughout both days. All skill levels are 
welcome and laptops are encouraged. Seating is limited, register now.

Speakers:

* Interested in presenting? Submit a session
* Highlight your Drupal knowledge to the mid-west
* Share your experience and contribute to the growth of Drupal

Register today @ http://drupalcampchicago.org !


Not able to make it to DrupalCamp? Don't worry, CDMUG has events every 
month. If new to Drupal, we encourage you to attend our free 
introduction to Drupal training each month. In addition, we have a 
regular meeting with presentations each month. RSVP for our next events 
@ http://drupal.meetup.com/1

- Matthew at Lechleider.com
CDMUG Organizer
http://cdmug.org
http://drupal.meetup.com/1
http://twitter.com/cdmug
http://groups.drupal.org/Chicago
http://drupalcampchicago.org



From mark.stanislav at gmail.com  Wed May 26 19:28:35 2010
From: mark.stanislav at gmail.com (Mark Stanislav)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 19:28:35 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Two positions open[ing] for local company;
	Linux Sys Admin and 	Help Desk
Message-ID: <AANLkTilG6XiApoZkJd_OxfU2rxkyzF74MQmatmqV9sPF@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I work for a digital promotions agency near Detroit and we currently
have one Linux Systems Admin position open as well as a technology
help desk spot. The hiring will be done through RHT but I can forward
all resumes directly to our main recruiter and skip some pain. Both
positions are full-time and are contract to hire. These are made to be
long-term; we are backfilling.

For the linux admin position, we're running into our interviewees not
being technical enough. We're looking for some decently seasoned (2+
years) Linux admins that understand questions such as "How does a TCP
conversation work?"; "What is an SPF record?"; "Explain the difference
between symmetric and asymmetric crypto."

Some of you may be scoffing, but I assure you we've had some
candidates who can't do these things, so I am reaching out to you fine
people hoping we can find a good fit and get someone from our
community a job!

The help desk technology spot is... well, it's a help desk job.

Please forward resumes to me and I will get them on to their path to
success. I can answer some basic questions off-list, but the rest
would have to be done by our company/recruiter. Just getting the word
out mostly.

Cheers.


From Stan at mcomputersolutions.com  Fri May 28 22:23:44 2010
From: Stan at mcomputersolutions.com (Stan Green)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 22:23:44 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] KMix Tray Icon
Message-ID: <201005282223.44707.Stan@mcomputersolutions.com>

I have used the KMix tray icon for a over a year to adjust and mute the volume 
on my KDE based Debin 5.x system. Recently, the icon stopped changing anything. 
It looks like it is working, but it does not change the volume or mute it. If I 
open KMix, then I can change the volume and mute it. This all is not a big 
deal, it just a little annoying. I cannot find any case on the internet of this 
happening. Does anyone know how the tray icon and KMix are connected and how 
the connection could have stopped working?

Thanks,
Stan


From tony at bemushosting.com  Sun May  2 10:52:02 2010
From: tony at bemushosting.com (Tony Bemus)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 10:52:02 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM
Message-ID: <0MDRHZ-1O9RTY2dVl-00H0uH@mrelay.perfora.net>

If you have stuff in the room and you need in email back and i will open the room.  Everything needs to be out before noon

Tony Bemus
Sent from my smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: gib at juno.com <gib at juno.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:10 AM
To: gib at juno.com
Cc: warnermach at gmail.com; richardj55 at sbcglobal.net; clyne at lodden.com; officers at mdlug.org; board at mug.org; sanzicar at yahoo.com; mdlug at mdlug.org; mdbader at wowway.com; franzb at ameritech.net; argie4444 at yahoo.com; jrl at lodden.com; open.computing at yahoo.com; edz at comcast.net
Subject: 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM


Clean up is scheudled for 10AM today. Get your stuff.


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From gib at juno.com  Sun May  2 20:14:28 2010
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 00:14:28 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM
Message-ID: <20100502.201428.24268.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>


Everything seems to be accounted for.  Except, I have one canvas bag with blue stripes.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com>
To: MDLUG's Main discussion list <mdlug at mdlug.org>
Subject: Re: [mdlug] 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 10:52:02 -0400

If you have stuff in the room and you need in email back and i will open the room.  Everything needs to be out before noon

Tony Bemus
Sent from my smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: gib at juno.com <gib at juno.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:10 AM
To: gib at juno.com
Cc: warnermach at gmail.com; richardj55 at sbcglobal.net; clyne at lodden.com; officers at mdlug.org; board at mug.org; sanzicar at yahoo.com; mdlug at mdlug.org; mdbader at wowway.com; franzb at ameritech.net; argie4444 at yahoo.com; jrl at lodden.com; open.computing at yahoo.com; edz at comcast.net
Subject: 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM


Clean up is scheudled for 10AM today. Get your stuff.


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From tesral at wowway.com  Sun May  2 20:26:39 2010
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 20:26:39 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM
In-Reply-To: <20100502.201428.24268.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100502.201428.24268.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4BDE183F.6030703@wowway.com>

gib at juno.com wrote:
> Everything seems to be accounted for.  Except, I have one canvas bag with blue stripes.
>   

I wondered where that went.  Bring it Saturday to the meeting.  I'll get
it then.

-- 
Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.

We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it -- and stop there -- lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again, and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more. -Mark Twain
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
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Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org



From mat.enders at gmail.com  Mon May  3 14:28:50 2010
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (mat.enders at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 18:28:50 +0000
Subject: [mdlug] Fw: [WLUG] Mailman expert?
Message-ID: <9794984-1272911330-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1072717385-@bda326.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Forwarded from WLUG list
------Original Message------
From: Michael P. Monan
Sender: owner-linux-users at lugwash.org
To: linux-users
Subject: [WLUG] Mailman expert?
Sent: May 3, 2010 14:21

Hi all...

We're looking to pay someone for some hourly time for some mailman
augmentations... Anyone have any specific experience with the package and
interacting with it?

Thanks!

Mike Monan

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From Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com  Tue May  4 08:30:47 2010
From: Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com (Ingles, Raymond)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 08:30:47 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] PiTiVi
Message-ID: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5C8@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>

Apparently Ubuntu will be including this video editor with their default
install. I decided to give it a whirl and was reasonably impressed. It
allows you to mix video in, and export it out, in whatever formats
Linux's encoders can handle (which is nearly all of 'em). For clipping
and rearranging scenes, and dubbing over, it was very quick, simple, and
convenient.

As a quick test, I took this scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Tb9lin_sw

...and shuffled it, and spliced in some dialogue from a similar scene in
another movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDg9VEIgNzA

The result is not art, but it was very easy to produce. I plan on
experimenting with HD video soon, I'll let y'all know how it goes...

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles                                                (313)
227-2317

  "There is always more goodness in the world than there appears to be,
      because goodness is of its very nature modest and retiring."
                        - Evelyn Beatrice Hall

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From petertheplumber at att.net  Tue May  4 09:58:46 2010
From: petertheplumber at att.net (Peter Bart)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:58:46 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] PiTiVi
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5C8@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5C8@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <20100504095846.19b76583@Nokia-N800-43-7>

On Tue, 4 May 2010 08:30:47 -0400
"Ingles, Raymond" <Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com> wrote:

> Apparently Ubuntu will be including this video editor with their
> default install. I decided to give it a whirl and was reasonably
> impressed. It allows you to mix video in, and export it out, in
> whatever formats Linux's encoders can handle (which is nearly all of
> 'em). For clipping and rearranging scenes, and dubbing over, it was
> very quick, simple, and convenient.
> 
> As a quick test, I took this scene:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Tb9lin_sw
> 
> ...and shuffled it, and spliced in some dialogue from a similar scene
> in another movie:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDg9VEIgNzA
> 
> The result is not art, but it was very easy to produce. I plan on
> experimenting with HD video soon, I'll let y'all know how it goes...
> 
>  Sincerely,
> 
>  Ray Ingles    

    Thanks Ray, I need something like this!
-- 
Best Regards,

Peter The Plumber
Sent from a mobile Internet Tablet


From Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com  Tue May  4 10:26:31 2010
From: Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com (Ingles, Raymond)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 10:26:31 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] PiTiVi
In-Reply-To: <20100504095846.19b76583@Nokia-N800-43-7>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5C8@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	<20100504095846.19b76583@Nokia-N800-43-7>
Message-ID: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5FE@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>

> From: Peter Bart
>     Thanks Ray, I need something like this!

 Note, it's *not* really a full-fledged solution yet. For example, it
can do fade-ins, fade-outs, and crossfades, but no other transitions.
But for simple cutting and splicing of clips, it works very well.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles                                                (313)
227-2317

 "[W]hen people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people
 thought the earth was [perfectly] spherical, they were wrong. But if
you
 think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking
    the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put
                     together." - Isaac Asimov

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From gib at juno.com  Sun May  2 09:10:10 2010
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 13:10:10 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] 1211 -Penguicon Room Party - Clean up 10 AM
Message-ID: <20100502.091010.6909.1@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>


Clean up is scheudled for 10AM today. Get your stuff.


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From petertheplumber at att.net  Tue May  4 11:11:16 2010
From: petertheplumber at att.net (Peter Bart)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 11:11:16 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] PiTiVi
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5FE@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5C8@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	<20100504095846.19b76583@Nokia-N800-43-7>
	<319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED5FE@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <20100504111116.3509dc5d@Nokia-N800-43-7>

On Tue, 4 May 2010 10:26:31 -0400
"Ingles, Raymond" <Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com> wrote:

> > From: Peter Bart
> >     Thanks Ray, I need something like this!
> 
>  Note, it's *not* really a full-fledged solution yet. For example, it
> can do fade-ins, fade-outs, and crossfades, but no other transitions.
> But for simple cutting and splicing of clips, it works very well.
> 
    Ok thanks Ray. That should work very well for me. I just need to do very simple editing for the cocker spaniel rescue. For now it sounds like it'll work. Eventually I'm looking at adding titles and sound, but I'm not going to spend that kind of time right now. 
-- 
Best Regards,

Peter The Plumber
Sent from a mobile Internet Tablet


From carl at carltm.com  Tue May  4 19:09:53 2010
From: carl at carltm.com (Carl T. Miller)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:09:53 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Penguicon Room Party - MDLUG and SEMCO
In-Reply-To: <20100429.081652.21775.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100429.081652.21775.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <8b6d0a3d51f1be223aab0d14fac4fc46.squirrel@www.carltm.com>

gib at juno.com wrote:
> Thank you.  It was good to see all of you.

Hey, how did the party go?  I wanted to attend but had
to work most of the weekend.  What did I miss at penguicon?

c




From relson at osagesoftware.com  Wed May  5 17:42:30 2010
From: relson at osagesoftware.com (David Relson)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 17:42:30 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: embedded software engineers needed
Message-ID: <20100505174230.5bb41857@osage.osagesoftware.com>

G'day,

The company for which I work is looking to hire additional talented
embedded software engineers.  If you're interested, send your resume to
recruiting at asc-tech.com.

Regards,

David


From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Thu May  6 01:55:14 2010
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 01:55:14 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Penguicon Room Party - MDLUG and SEMCO
In-Reply-To: <8b6d0a3d51f1be223aab0d14fac4fc46.squirrel@www.carltm.com>
References: <20100429.081652.21775.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com>
	<8b6d0a3d51f1be223aab0d14fac4fc46.squirrel@www.carltm.com>
Message-ID: <4BE259C2.3060008@gmail.com>

Carl T. Miller wrote:
> gib at juno.com wrote:
>> Thank you.  It was good to see all of you.
> 
> Hey, how did the party go?  I wanted to attend but had
> to work most of the weekend.  What did I miss at penguicon?
> 

Other than the various women's gymnastics teams that
were staying there for some sort of event???












Just kidding.


From Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com  Thu May  6 10:12:45 2010
From: Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com (Ingles, Raymond)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 10:12:45 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
Message-ID: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>


 I'm planning on publishing a few Droid apps as time goes on. Some free,
some for a nominal charge. I don't anticipate making more than
pizza-and-beer money off them, but I want them to have a net presence
apart from my personal web page. So, I have a domain name selected that
I'm sure is not in use. I'd like some web space to host files and such,
but I wouldn't actually run e-commerce from it. I'd let the Android
Market handle that stuff.

 So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
Linux required, obviously. Thanks.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles                                             (313) 227-2317

  "Windows: The OS that makes you delete things to make them work."
                          Sinister Midget

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From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Thu May  6 10:42:55 2010
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 10:42:55 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] FYI: Parallels Desktop 4 for Windows & Linux $39.99 w/free
	shipping at Newegg until 1pm PDT
Message-ID: <v2tb02c40e91005060742g8fe07e72wc76a294844c4c2e4@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.newegg.com/special/shellshocker.aspx?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL050610&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL050610-_-EMC-050610-Index-_-MECH-_-ShellShocker-EB2B


From tesral at wowway.com  Thu May  6 11:58:32 2010
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 11:58:32 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <4BE2E728.8050606@wowway.com>

Ingles, Raymond wrote:
>  I'm planning on publishing a few Droid apps as time goes on. Some free,
> some for a nominal charge. I don't anticipate making more than
> pizza-and-beer money off them, but I want them to have a net presence
> apart from my personal web page. So, I have a domain name selected that
> I'm sure is not in use. I'd like some web space to host files and such,
> but I wouldn't actually run e-commerce from it. I'd let the Android
> Market handle that stuff.
>
>  So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
> Linux required, obviously. Thanks.
>   
Freeservers.  I've used them since 1997.


-- 
Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.

We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it -- and stop there -- lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again, and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more. -Mark Twain
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org



From GregWojtak at quickenloans.com  Thu May  6 13:39:29 2010
From: GregWojtak at quickenloans.com (Wojtak, Greg)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 13:39:29 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <9FB6372000B099469B46478B643EE46902268B273C@EXCCRVS1.mi.corp.rockfin.com>

The Linux Fix http://www.thelinuxfix.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org [mailto:mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org] On Behalf Of Ingles, Raymond
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:13 AM
To: MDLUG's Main discussion list
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?


 I'm planning on publishing a few Droid apps as time goes on. Some free,
some for a nominal charge. I don't anticipate making more than
pizza-and-beer money off them, but I want them to have a net presence
apart from my personal web page. So, I have a domain name selected that
I'm sure is not in use. I'd like some web space to host files and such,
but I wouldn't actually run e-commerce from it. I'd let the Android
Market handle that stuff.

 So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
Linux required, obviously. Thanks.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles                                             (313) 227-2317

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From micorral at comcast.net  Fri May  7 16:54:49 2010
From: micorral at comcast.net (Michael Corral)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 16:54:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005071648500.2509@banana.sluggo.net>

2010-05-06, Monsieur Ingles, Raymond a ecrit:
> So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
> Linux required, obviously.

I use IX Web Hosting: http://www.ixwebhosting.com
They use Linux servers.

Michael


From box at blogdetroit.com  Mon May 10 07:29:36 2010
From: box at blogdetroit.com (marytee)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 07:29:36 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
Message-ID: <4BE7EE20.8050306@blogdetroit.com>

Ray, I use 1and1 (1and1.com).  They have Linux servers and I have been 
very satisfied with their support--they have been quick to respond to 
questions and resolve any issues I have had.

I don't know if they're the cheapest kid on the block but you can check 
that out.

Mary

On 05/06/2010 10:12 AM, Ingles, Raymond wrote:
>   I'm planning on publishing a few Droid apps as time goes on. Some free,
> some for a nominal charge. I don't anticipate making more than
> pizza-and-beer money off them, but I want them to have a net presence
> apart from my personal web page. So, I have a domain name selected that
> I'm sure is not in use. I'd like some web space to host files and such,
> but I wouldn't actually run e-commerce from it. I'd let the Android
> Market handle that stuff.
>
>   So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
> Linux required, obviously. Thanks.
>
>   Sincerely,
>
>   Ray Ingles                                             (313) 227-2317
>
>    "Windows: The OS that makes you delete things to make them work."
>                            Sinister Midget
>
> The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
>
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From blubdog at gmail.com  Mon May 10 09:31:22 2010
From: blubdog at gmail.com (Bruce Smith)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 09:31:22 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <4BE7EE20.8050306@blogdetroit.com>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	<4BE7EE20.8050306@blogdetroit.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimEhPHuZ9iYZB0jyts3KwqJK3cW-R-6JmFxJ-oN@mail.gmail.com>

>>   So, any suggestions on an inexpensive registrar and/or hosting company?
>> Linux required, obviously. Thanks.

I use the godaddy.com Linux plan, and I'm happy so far.

I have their upgraded plan for $7/month (cheaper if you prepay).
It allows me to host multiple domains/sites on the same plan (shared bandwidth).

And the thing that sold me was you also get SSH access!  Most others
don't allow that.  It's sure nice to be able to ssh into the server
and 'mv' a large file or directories to a new location, instead of
having to re-upload it with FTP to the new location.  Or un'tar files,
or make backup copies of directories with doing upgrades, etc.

 - BS


From cvweiss at gmail.com  Mon May 10 09:35:21 2010
From: cvweiss at gmail.com (Clinton V. Weiss)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 09:35:21 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Hosting and domain registration?
In-Reply-To: <4BE7EE20.8050306@blogdetroit.com>
References: <319C03F7A120754B9128CF308BF5E03704CED8C2@nasa-dtw-ex004.nasa.cpwr.corp>
	<4BE7EE20.8050306@blogdetroit.com>
Message-ID: <o2lf0e9fe591005100635wabb925a1s225f397835bee855@mail.gmail.com>

I may be a bit late on this thread, however, I have one question.  Can
anyone recommend a web host that provides Varnish as an option without
forcing the customer to resort to a VPS?

-- 
Clinton V. Weiss
cvweiss at gmail.com


From radkins at impelind.com  Mon May 10 14:24:12 2010
From: radkins at impelind.com (Robert Adkins II)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:24:12 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
Message-ID: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>

The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
 
What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
 
Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
again, until it happens again.
 
I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior and I
believe most of it is how he uses the application.
 
He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on end as
a method of keeping track of what he is up to.
 
The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the application
and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving multiple
Outlook windows open for days on end.
 
Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself, such
as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on the
server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.
 
I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening shortly
after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two back.
 
Regards,
Rob


From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Mon May 10 17:37:02 2010
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 17:37:02 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Robert Adkins II <radkins at impelind.com> wrote:
> The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
>
> What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
> through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
>
> Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
> again, until it happens again.
>
> I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior and I
> believe most of it is how he uses the application.
>
> He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on end as
> a method of keeping track of what he is up to.
>
> The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
> creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the application
> and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving multiple
> Outlook windows open for days on end.
>
> Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself, such
> as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
> emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on the
> server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.
>
> I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening shortly
> after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two back.
>

Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates persistently open windows.

> Regards,
> Rob
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>


From radkins at impelind.com  Mon May 10 18:09:43 2010
From: radkins at impelind.com (Robert Adkins II)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 18:09:43 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
	<AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6DD525F6842E47B9B5C314A5253D5797@Delta7>


> >
> 
> Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates 
> persistently open windows.
> 

  If I was living in a "world" where using Mozilla Seamonkey was an option,
I would be. The problem is, the boss believes that "Everyone" uses Outlook
and that it somehow creates perfectly "beautiful" emails and that if he uses
something else, the formatting will be all "messed up" and look
unprofessional.

  No, it matters not one whit that I have showed him extended header
information that displays the fact that the majority of our customer base
actually utilizes a variety of different email clients.

  This position, is not a position reached via reasoning out the pros and
cons, therefor is isn't one that can be reasoned out of.

	-Rob



From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Mon May 10 19:50:45 2010
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 19:50:45 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikpxHYr2SxCeWZQIUDOicvDkFllvzlLB773djz_@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Robert Adkins II <radkins at impelind.com> wrote:
> The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
>
> What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
> through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
>
> Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
> again, until it happens again.
>

Is he using an Exchange server, POP3, or IMAP?  It could be a server
authentication issue.

> I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior and I
> believe most of it is how he uses the application.
>
> He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on end as
> a method of keeping track of what he is up to.
>
> The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
> creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the application
> and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving multiple
> Outlook windows open for days on end.
>

> Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself, such
> as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
> emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on the
> server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.
>
> I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening shortly
> after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two back.
>

Not necessarily unless your boss is having the same issue.  It could
also be interference from another application messing with the
clipboard (or malware).


From radkins at impelind.com  Tue May 11 08:06:25 2010
From: radkins at impelind.com (Robert Adkins II)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 08:06:25 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikpxHYr2SxCeWZQIUDOicvDkFllvzlLB773djz_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
	<AANLkTikpxHYr2SxCeWZQIUDOicvDkFllvzlLB773djz_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F0F05409D5344B939F7158643FDAB672@Delta7>

> 
> Is he using an Exchange server, POP3, or IMAP?  It could be a 
> server authentication issue.
> 

	It's not a server authentication issue, Outlook just simply stops
sending out email. This usually happens after about a week of leaving the
application open with upwards of 30 individual emails open.

	-Rob



From tesral at wowway.com  Tue May 11 14:30:49 2010
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:30:49 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Job security
Message-ID: <4BE9A259.5080506@wowway.com>

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20100511

-- 
Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.

We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it -- and stop there -- lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again, and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more. -Mark Twain
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org



From audiotech50 at gmail.com  Tue May 11 23:03:19 2010
From: audiotech50 at gmail.com (Michael Rudas)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 23:03:19 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Job security
In-Reply-To: <4BE9A259.5080506@wowway.com>
References: <4BE9A259.5080506@wowway.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTile5j6hA2yDm82TcF7pdVoa-pFDlyuhYStPdv57@mail.gmail.com>

--- Garry Stahl wrote:

> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20100511

I have personally seen something much like this in action.  It's a lot
harder to do in Linux, but probably not impossible. :-)

~~ Michael Rudas
   My home page: http://MRudas.2Ya.com
   My software blog: http://FaveSoft.blogspot.com
   My Protopage links: http://TinyURL.com/protop
   http://www.Facebook.com/ScienceMikey


From gib at juno.com  Wed May 12 10:44:27 2010
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 14:44:27 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] Target has the $50 IM tool called zipit - hack to run Linux
Message-ID: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>

 
I our meeting Saturday we saw some folks with a zipit.  A $50 device they got from Target intended for teen IM.  But they said they were able to run Linux on it. 
http://www.target.com/dp/B00115PR2O/ref=sc_qi_img_viewdetails?ie=UTF8&title=view%20full%20details
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From carl at carltm.com  Wed May 12 18:35:20 2010
From: carl at carltm.com (Carl T. Miller)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:35:20 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Target has the $50 IM tool called zipit - hack to run
 Linux
In-Reply-To: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <3f40339f3c7ecb1afe16f55e36342629.squirrel@www.carltm.com>

It looks fun, but does it have a full keyboard?  I mean
can you type in all the characters of a full keyboard?

c


gib at juno.com wrote:
>
> I our meeting Saturday we saw some folks with a zipit.  A $50 device they
> got from Target intended for teen IM.  But they said they were able to run
> Linux on it.
> http://www.target.com/dp/B00115PR2O/ref=sc_qi_img_viewdetails?ie=UTF8&title=view%20full%20details
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From radkins at impelind.com  Thu May 13 08:16:32 2010
From: radkins at impelind.com (Robert Adkins II)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 08:16:32 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Target has the $50 IM tool called zipit - hack to run
	Linux
In-Reply-To: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <BED1D8104D184E8ABCD6FF86B13BE807@Delta7>

Wow, they don't even seem to want to pay for a hand model.

They used a cgi hand to provide a "representative" look at the size of the
device.

-Rob

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org 
> [mailto:mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org] On Behalf Of gib at juno.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:44 AM
> To: mdlug at mdlug.org
> Subject: [mdlug] Target has the $50 IM tool called zipit - 
> hack to run Linux
> 
>  
> I our meeting Saturday we saw some folks with a zipit.  A $50 
> device they got from Target intended for teen IM.  But they 
> said they were able to run Linux on it. 
> http://www.target.com/dp/B00115PR2O/ref=sc_qi_img_viewdetails?
> ie=UTF8&title=view%20full%20details
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From tesral at wowway.com  Thu May 13 10:51:32 2010
From: tesral at wowway.com (Garry Stahl)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:51:32 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Target has the $50 IM tool called zipit - hack to run
 Linux
In-Reply-To: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100512.104427.1445.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4BEC11F4.7020203@wowway.com>

gib at juno.com wrote:
>  
> I our meeting Saturday we saw some folks with a zipit.  A $50 device they got from Target intended for teen IM.  But they said they were able to run Linux on it. 
>   
It was a cute toy.  Way to small for my fingers.


-- 
Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.

We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it -- and stop there -- lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again, and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more. -Mark Twain
Star Trek mort. Viva la Star Trek admiraetur
The Olde Phoenix Inn http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com
Metro Detroit Linux Users Group http://www.mdlug.org



From gib at juno.com  Thu May 13 19:59:27 2010
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:59:27 GMT
Subject: [mdlug] FYI: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
Message-ID: <20100513.195927.9413.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>


FYI

Please note: forwarded message attached

From: "Sean Esfarayeni" <Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com>
To: <president at mdlug.org>,<vp at mdlug.org>
Subject: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:07:06 -0600


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Greetings,
 
You are invited to join technical experts from Novell for a demonstration and interactive discussion session covering such areas as:
 
SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP1 
SUSE Studio 
Virtualization and cloud computing with Linux 
High availability and disaster recovery solutions from Novell
 
The below attachment has more information and the link for registration to this event.
Kindly forward this to your user group members and we look forward to see you at the event.
 
Best regards,
 
 
 
Sean Esfarayeni
Territory Manager
Novell
416-203-4684

Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com
 
Novell provides a fast, affordable, and complete recovery solution in a single, totally self-contained appliance, check it out here http://www.novell.com/products/forge/
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From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Thu May 13 21:13:06 2010
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 21:13:06 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] FYI: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
In-Reply-To: <20100513.195927.9413.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100513.195927.9413.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinX-d6QX0gSjuRu2sTf9wszLi_xF8V-nX6XWnoE@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, gib at juno.com <gib at juno.com> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
> Please note: forwarded message attached
>
> From: "Sean Esfarayeni" <Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com>
> To: <president at mdlug.org>,<vp at mdlug.org>
> Subject: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:07:06 -0600
>
>
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> Greetings,
>
> You are invited to join technical experts from Novell for a demonstration and interactive discussion session covering such areas as:
>
> SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP1
> SUSE Studio
> Virtualization and cloud computing with Linux
> High availability and disaster recovery solutions from Novell
>
> The below attachment has more information and the link for registration to this event.
> Kindly forward this to your user group members and we look forward to see you at the event.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Sean Esfarayeni
> Territory Manager
> Novell
> 416-203-4684
>
> Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com
>
> Novell provides a fast, affordable, and complete recovery solution in a single, totally self-contained appliance, check it out here http://www.novell.com/products/forge/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> mdlug at mdlug.org
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>

Registration link:
https://register.novell.com/simple/?event_id=26718&lcode=enu


From smunro622 at gmail.com  Thu May 13 21:31:59 2010
From: smunro622 at gmail.com (stuart munro)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 21:31:59 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] FYI: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinX-d6QX0gSjuRu2sTf9wszLi_xF8V-nX6XWnoE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100513.195927.9413.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>
	<AANLkTinX-d6QX0gSjuRu2sTf9wszLi_xF8V-nX6XWnoE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13046B8B-25F5-4812-B2DC-CE453CA1AA6F@gmail.com>

is this may 25@ marriott rencen in detroit as i got a call today to attend...


On May 13, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Jeff Hanson wrote:

> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, gib at juno.com <gib at juno.com> wrote:
>> 
>> FYI
>> 
>> Please note: forwarded message attached
>> 
>> From: "Sean Esfarayeni" <Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com>
>> To: <president at mdlug.org>,<vp at mdlug.org>
>> Subject: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
>> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:07:06 -0600
>> 
>> 
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Penny Stock Soaring 3000%
>> Sign up for Free to find out what the next 3000% Stock Winner Is!
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bec92bb928e4425ad3st04vuc
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> You are invited to join technical experts from Novell for a demonstration and interactive discussion session covering such areas as:
>> 
>> SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP1
>> SUSE Studio
>> Virtualization and cloud computing with Linux
>> High availability and disaster recovery solutions from Novell
>> 
>> The below attachment has more information and the link for registration to this event.
>> Kindly forward this to your user group members and we look forward to see you at the event.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sean Esfarayeni
>> Territory Manager
>> Novell
>> 416-203-4684
>> 
>> Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com
>> 
>> Novell provides a fast, affordable, and complete recovery solution in a single, totally self-contained appliance, check it out here http://www.novell.com/products/forge/
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> mdlug mailing list
>> mdlug at mdlug.org
>> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>> 
> 
> Registration link:
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From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Thu May 13 23:03:12 2010
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:03:12 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <6DD525F6842E47B9B5C314A5253D5797@Delta7>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>	<AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
	<6DD525F6842E47B9B5C314A5253D5797@Delta7>
Message-ID: <4BECBD70.10306@gmail.com>

Robert Adkins II wrote:
>> Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates 
>> persistently open windows.
>>
> 
>   If I was living in a "world" where using Mozilla Seamonkey was an option,
> I would be. The problem is, the boss believes that "Everyone" uses Outlook
> and that it somehow creates perfectly "beautiful" emails and that if he uses
> something else, the formatting will be all "messed up" and look
> unprofessional.
> 
>   No, it matters not one whit that I have showed him extended header
> information that displays the fact that the majority of our customer base
> actually utilizes a variety of different email clients.
> 
>   This position, is not a position reached via reasoning out the pros and
> cons, therefor is isn't one that can be reasoned out of.

Ah..
Emotional decisions (products of the Microsoft marketing department)
need to be attacked via emotional paths.  Learn covert hypnosis methods.



From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Thu May 13 23:05:25 2010
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:05:25 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <F0F05409D5344B939F7158643FDAB672@Delta7>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>	<AANLkTikpxHYr2SxCeWZQIUDOicvDkFllvzlLB773djz_@mail.gmail.com>
	<F0F05409D5344B939F7158643FDAB672@Delta7>
Message-ID: <4BECBDF5.4090100@gmail.com>

Robert Adkins II wrote:
>> Is he using an Exchange server, POP3, or IMAP?  It could be a 
>> server authentication issue.
>>
> 
> 	It's not a server authentication issue, Outlook just simply stops
> sending out email. This usually happens after about a week of leaving the
> application open with upwards of 30 individual emails open.

When he starts FEELING BAD about it, he'll look for a better solution.

I would suggest putting Seamonkey on other people's machines, and your
own, of course.

And then when he complains, act like he's crazy, and go around the
shop, asking everyone if they're having problems with THEIR email
client.

Generate ENVY.

Finally, when HE'S FED UP WITH NOT HAVING what his subordinates have
(and which works better), he'll switch.


From radkins at impelind.com  Fri May 14 08:40:26 2010
From: radkins at impelind.com (Robert Adkins II)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:40:26 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <4BECBDF5.4090100@gmail.com>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>	<AANLkTikpxHYr2SxCeWZQIUDOicvDkFllvzlLB773djz_@mail.gmail.com><F0F05409D5344B939F7158643FDAB672@Delta7>
	<4BECBDF5.4090100@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A21E1B071CAF4E4680E4625409F36687@Delta7>


> 
> Robert Adkins II wrote:
> >> Is he using an Exchange server, POP3, or IMAP?  It could 
> be a server 
> >> authentication issue.
> >>
> > 
> > 	It's not a server authentication issue, Outlook just 
> simply stops 
> > sending out email. This usually happens after about a week 
> of leaving 
> > the application open with upwards of 30 individual emails open.
> 
> When he starts FEELING BAD about it, he'll look for a better solution.
> 
> I would suggest putting Seamonkey on other people's machines, 
> and your own, of course.
> 
> And then when he complains, act like he's crazy, and go 
> around the shop, asking everyone if they're having problems 
> with THEIR email client.
> 
> Generate ENVY.
> 
> Finally, when HE'S FED UP WITH NOT HAVING what his 
> subordinates have (and which works better), he'll switch.
> _______________________________________________

	That won't work either. That's been part of the plan for going on 6
years now. He's always had minor issues here and there with Outlook, mostly
related to having his .pst file hover around 4gb in size.

	-Rob



From awilliam at opengroupware.us  Fri May 14 09:04:46 2010
From: awilliam at opengroupware.us (Adam Tauno Williams)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 09:04:46 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
	<AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1273842286.12660.3.camel@linux-yu4c.site>

On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:37 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Robert Adkins II <radkins at impelind.com> wrote:
> > The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
> > What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
> > through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
> > Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
> > again, until it happens again.
> > I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior and I
> > believe most of it is how he uses the application.
> > He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on end as
> > a method of keeping track of what he is up to.

Perhaps you can just show him the feature of how to turn an e-mail
message into a to-do item?

> > The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
> > creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the application
> > and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving multiple
> > Outlook windows open for days on end.

That seems like a reasonable guess to me.

> > Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself, such
> > as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
> > emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on the
> > server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.

Have you looked int he workstations event log to see if there are any
application errors being logged?

> > I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening shortly
> > after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two back.
> Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates persistently open windows.

I know it is an extremely unpopular thing to say, but: Seriously?
Thunderbird (which is all Seamonkey is) is hardly a stellar example of
an e-mail client.  On Windows I'd choose Outlook over TB anyday.  The
popularity of Thunderbird is unfathomable; it is slow, not really all
that featureful - and butt ugly. 



From jhansonxi at gmail.com  Fri May 14 09:56:37 2010
From: jhansonxi at gmail.com (Jeff Hanson)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 09:56:37 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <1273842286.12660.3.camel@linux-yu4c.site>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>
	<AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1273842286.12660.3.camel@linux-yu4c.site>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxgC2ZPZ_3b5mBHhLvhnQbDRmCNknov86KfMdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thunderbird is not equivalent to Outlook.  It is more an equivalent to
Outlook Express (which was supposed to be killed off 10 years ago).
Evolution is a closer match to Outlook.

A 4GB mailbox is something that should be on an Exchange server but
setting up the Outlook archive function with a separate pst store
would probably improve performance and possibly solve the problem.

On 5/14/10, Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam at opengroupware.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:37 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Robert Adkins II <radkins at impelind.com>
>> wrote:
>> > The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
>> > What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
>> > through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
>> > Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
>> > again, until it happens again.
>> > I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior
>> > and I
>> > believe most of it is how he uses the application.
>> > He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on
>> > end as
>> > a method of keeping track of what he is up to.
>
> Perhaps you can just show him the feature of how to turn an e-mail
> message into a to-do item?
>
>> > The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
>> > creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the
>> > application
>> > and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving
>> > multiple
>> > Outlook windows open for days on end.
>
> That seems like a reasonable guess to me.
>
>> > Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself,
>> > such
>> > as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
>> > emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on
>> > the
>> > server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.
>
> Have you looked int he workstations event log to see if there are any
> application errors being logged?
>
>> > I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening
>> > shortly
>> > after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two
>> > back.
>> Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates persistently open
>> windows.
>
> I know it is an extremely unpopular thing to say, but: Seriously?
> Thunderbird (which is all Seamonkey is) is hardly a stellar example of
> an e-mail client.  On Windows I'd choose Outlook over TB anyday.  The
> popularity of Thunderbird is unfathomable; it is slow, not really all
> that featureful - and butt ugly.
>
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>


From akulkis00 at gmail.com  Fri May 14 13:19:49 2010
From: akulkis00 at gmail.com (Aaron Kulkis)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:19:49 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Anyone an "expert" with MS Outlook?
In-Reply-To: <1273842286.12660.3.camel@linux-yu4c.site>
References: <0ED0638F38274E6089AF176898039993@Delta7>	<AANLkTimaRqI_58GuyYjrGHL2clQEI3oMYjSScnLxE8xd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1273842286.12660.3.camel@linux-yu4c.site>
Message-ID: <4BED8635.1080606@gmail.com>

Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:37 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Robert Adkins II <radkins at impelind.com> wrote:
>>> The boss has been experiencing problems with Outlook in recent weeks.
>>> What happens is that out of the blue, Outlook just stops sending email
>>> through our server. There's no rhyme or reason to it, this just happens.
>>> Except for this, when I have him restart his Outlook, it will work fine
>>> again, until it happens again.
>>> I have found nothing on the MS Support pages discussing this behavior and I
>>> believe most of it is how he uses the application.
>>> He will open up dozens of emails and leave them on screen for days on end as
>>> a method of keeping track of what he is up to.
> 
> Perhaps you can just show him the feature of how to turn an e-mail
> message into a to-do item?
> 
>>> The only thing I can come up with is that there is some memory issue
>>> creeping up in Outlook due to the fact the he never shuts the application
>>> and the non-standard way in which he uses the application, leaving multiple
>>> Outlook windows open for days on end.
> 
> That seems like a reasonable guess to me.
> 
>>> Now, I have been experiencing some issues recently with Outlook myself, such
>>> as it will suddenly no longer allow me to copy/past attachements out of
>>> emails into other applications, such as explorer to store the file on the
>>> server. A simple restart of Outlook fixes the problem.
> 
> Have you looked int he workstations event log to see if there are any
> application errors being logged?
> 
>>> I believe that both issues are related. Both also started happening shortly
>>> after the release of several MS Windows updates about a month or two back.
>> Mozilla Seamonkey has an e-mail module and tolerates persistently open windows.
> 
> I know it is an extremely unpopular thing to say, but: Seriously?
> Thunderbird (which is all Seamonkey is) is hardly a stellar example of
> an e-mail client.  On Windows I'd choose Outlook over TB anyday.  The
> popularity of Thunderbird is unfathomable; it is slow, not really all
> that featureful - and butt ugly.

Used Thunderbird for about a week, went back to Seamonkey.

They are NOT the same thing.


From smunro622 at gmail.com  Fri May 14 22:57:36 2010
From: smunro622 at gmail.com (stuart munro)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 22:57:36 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] FYI: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinX-d6QX0gSjuRu2sTf9wszLi_xF8V-nX6XWnoE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100513.195927.9413.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>
	<AANLkTinX-d6QX0gSjuRu2sTf9wszLi_xF8V-nX6XWnoE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2E3AB3DD-E1FC-4581-9435-E26A4C8EF5FC@gmail.com>

is this may 25@ marriott rencen in detroit as i got a call today to attend...


On May 13, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Jeff Hanson wrote:

> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, gib at juno.com <gib at juno.com> wrote:
>> 
>> FYI
>> 
>> Please note: forwarded message attached
>> 
>> From: "Sean Esfarayeni" <Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com>
>> To: <president at mdlug.org>,<vp at mdlug.org>
>> Subject: Linux Day 2010 in Detroit
>> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:07:06 -0600
>> 
>> 
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Penny Stock Soaring 3000%
>> Sign up for Free to find out what the next 3000% Stock Winner Is!
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bec92bb928e4425ad3st04vuc
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> You are invited to join technical experts from Novell for a demonstration and interactive discussion session covering such areas as:
>> 
>> SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP1
>> SUSE Studio
>> Virtualization and cloud computing with Linux
>> High availability and disaster recovery solutions from Novell
>> 
>> The below attachment has more information and the link for registration to this event.
>> Kindly forward this to your user group members and we look forward to see you at the event.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sean Esfarayeni
>> Territory Manager
>> Novell
>> 416-203-4684
>> 
>> Sean.Esfarayeni at novell.com
>> 
>> Novell provides a fast, affordable, and complete recovery solution in a single, totally self-contained appliance, check it out here http://www.novell.com/products/forge/
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> mdlug mailing list
>> mdlug at mdlug.org
>> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>> 
> 
> Registration link:
> https://register.novell.com/simple/?event_id=26718&lcode=enu
> _______________________________________________
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From fulner at gmail.com  Tue May 18 10:47:00 2010
From: fulner at gmail.com (Robert Jim Fulner)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:47:00 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Clonezilla
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinyLXhcUKoLjc9VHzgJal0iCjbF3VpKx70PO6c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinyLXhcUKoLjc9VHzgJal0iCjbF3VpKx70PO6c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim0kPuhcmS3TNcLzzLSlOUpa6DOoMFwhomUnnJD@mail.gmail.com>

So I finally figured out why this wasn't posting the the mailing list, as I
had changed my email address a while back for reasons I dont' remeber. As
such when sending from my phone it only sends from my default GMAIL account,
I switched that setting back.

Now, on to my orginal inquiry!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:45 AM
Subject: Clonezilla
To: MDLUG <mdlug at mdlug.org>


I tried to send this a few days ago and I think it got eaten. Maybe I had
too many FWD/RE/ATTACH connected, so here we go again with just my message.

So I'm really bad about planning on doing something and then never got
around to doing it.

I downloaded clonezilla months ago and finally tried to back up my xplaptop
tonight.

I didn't fully understand some of the options, not sure if its still my lack
of geek cred, or the poorly translated clonezilla, especially when it came
to trying to do something with the /home/partimg/ directory.

Just to recap what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to back up the hard disk on
my laptop before I start f'n around with trying various partions and what
have you, even if I elect not to truly dual boot, backup should still be a
good idea. I'm hoping I can create the img store it on a flash drive, then
transfer that img to my wifes gigantic alienware hard disk.

Anyway back to my error, after going through all the options, not completley
understanding them, nor seeing any choices that looked like my flash drivr I
went ahead with the default settings and now I get this error:

/home/partimg is full! No space left on device! The saved image file
/home/partimg/nameofimage/sda2.ntfs-ptcl-img.gz is in complete! You have to
increase the disk space then start clonezilla save mode again!

Any insight you think would be helpful is greatly appreciated.

Jim Fulner
Sent from my GNU SmartPhone.Please dismiss not-so-smart typos.
- Show quoted text -


From mark.stanislav at gmail.com  Tue May 18 10:52:01 2010
From: mark.stanislav at gmail.com (Mark Stanislav)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:52:01 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Clonezilla
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim0kPuhcmS3TNcLzzLSlOUpa6DOoMFwhomUnnJD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinyLXhcUKoLjc9VHzgJal0iCjbF3VpKx70PO6c3@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTim0kPuhcmS3TNcLzzLSlOUpa6DOoMFwhomUnnJD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_EoY4eMqq3_zknGw0R-YiwsO-Nyb8Zet5_-TX@mail.gmail.com>

To clarify, "/home/partimg is full! No space left on device" -- did
you actually mount your drive correctly to /home/partimg before
continuing? Also, is the drive formatted with a filesystem allowing
for a disk image large enough to fit on there? i.e. probably not
FAT-32.

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com> wrote:
> So I finally figured out why this wasn't posting the the mailing list, as I
> had changed my email address a while back for reasons I dont' remeber. As
> such when sending from my phone it only sends from my default GMAIL account,
> I switched that setting back.
>
> Now, on to my orginal inquiry!
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:45 AM
> Subject: Clonezilla
> To: MDLUG <mdlug at mdlug.org>
>
>
> I tried to send this a few days ago and I think it got eaten. Maybe I had
> too many FWD/RE/ATTACH connected, so here we go again with just my message.
>
> So I'm really bad about planning on doing something and then never got
> around to doing it.
>
> I downloaded clonezilla months ago and finally tried to back up my xplaptop
> tonight.
>
> I didn't fully understand some of the options, not sure if its still my lack
> of geek cred, or the poorly translated clonezilla, especially when it came
> to trying to do something with the /home/partimg/ directory.
>
> Just to recap what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to back up the hard disk on
> my laptop before I start f'n around with trying various partions and what
> have you, even if I elect not to truly dual boot, backup should still be a
> good idea. I'm hoping I can create the img store it on a flash drive, then
> transfer that img to my wifes gigantic alienware hard disk.
>
> Anyway back to my error, after going through all the options, not completley
> understanding them, nor seeing any choices that looked like my flash drivr I
> went ahead with the default settings and now I get this error:
>
> /home/partimg is full! No space left on device! The saved image file
> /home/partimg/nameofimage/sda2.ntfs-ptcl-img.gz is in complete! You have to
> increase the disk space then start clonezilla save mode again!
>
> Any insight you think would be helpful is greatly appreciated.
>
> Jim Fulner
> Sent from my GNU SmartPhone.Please dismiss not-so-smart typos.
> - Show quoted text -
> _______________________________________________
> mdlug mailing list
> mdlug at mdlug.org
> http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug
>


From mat.enders at gmail.com  Tue May 18 11:37:38 2010
From: mat.enders at gmail.com (mat.enders at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:37:38 +0000
Subject: [mdlug] Clonezilla
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim0kPuhcmS3TNcLzzLSlOUpa6DOoMFwhomUnnJD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinyLXhcUKoLjc9VHzgJal0iCjbF3VpKx70PO6c3@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTim0kPuhcmS3TNcLzzLSlOUpa6DOoMFwhomUnnJD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1810938209-1274197058-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-697060285-@bda326.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

It sounds like you tried to put an image of the disk on the same disk. This will never work. You need to boot some type of live disk Ubuntu if the machine in question is Linux or UBCD4Win if it is windows if it is a Mac I do not have a suggestion. Once you are in the rescue disks environment mount the hard drive of the machine and delete the image file. All should be well then. I user Clonezilla all of the time. If you want the image on your wife's machine then create a share on your wife's machine and then create the image across the network there. 
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:47:00 
To: MDLUG<mdlug at mdlug.org>
Subject: [mdlug] Clonezilla

So I finally figured out why this wasn't posting the the mailing list, as I
had changed my email address a while back for reasons I dont' remeber. As
such when sending from my phone it only sends from my default GMAIL account,
I switched that setting back.

Now, on to my orginal inquiry!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robert Jim Fulner <fulner at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:45 AM
Subject: Clonezilla
To: MDLUG <mdlug at mdlug.org>


I tried to send this a few days ago and I think it got eaten. Maybe I had
too many FWD/RE/ATTACH connected, so here we go again with just my message.

So I'm really bad about planning on doing something and then never got
around to doing it.

I downloaded clonezilla months ago and finally tried to back up my xplaptop
tonight.

I didn't fully understand some of the options, not sure if its still my lack
of geek cred, or the poorly translated clonezilla, especially when it came
to trying to do something with the /home/partimg/ directory.

Just to recap what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to back up the hard disk on
my laptop before I start f'n around with trying various partions and what
have you, even if I elect not to truly dual boot, backup should still be a
good idea. I'm hoping I can create the img store it on a flash drive, then
transfer that img to my wifes gigantic alienware hard disk.

Anyway back to my error, after going through all the options, not completley
understanding them, nor seeing any choices that looked like my flash drivr I
went ahead with the default settings and now I get this error:

/home/partimg is full! No space left on device! The saved image file
/home/partimg/nameofimage/sda2.ntfs-ptcl-img.gz is in complete! You have to
increase the disk space then start clonezilla save mode again!

Any insight you think would be helpful is greatly appreciated.

Jim Fulner
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From fulner at gmail.com  Tue May 18 19:37:14 2010
From: fulner at gmail.com (Robert Jim Fulner)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:37:14 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Clonezilla
Message-ID: <AANLkTimNkI7r8Mvp6uBqg6KRtfLoJYTNcdy4Qpx1mM8n@mail.gmail.com>

-- did
>you actually mount your drive correctly to /home/partimg before

I'd guess not! Am I using this wrong? I'm trying to back up my XP top
(NTFS) I'm running Clonezilla off a FAT32 flash drive, for some reason
I though I'd be able to create the back up image on the same Flash and
store the image somewhere else later.

>>>If you want the image on your wife's machine then create a share on your wife's machine and then create the image across the network there.

Hmmm...looks like my horrendous networking skills strike again! I'm
still plugging which ever PC i need to print into the printer cuz I
can't fiure it out! And I provide free Wi-Fi to (and potentinal
destruction from) my neighbors because I can't seem to find an
encrypition that all of our wirless devices support that doesn't cause
my Linksys router to get mad and want to be reset regularly. (I know I
should be paying for better hardware, but that's not an optoin at this
time).


**
--
Jim Fulner
The DetroitLibertyPenguin
Promoting Free Minds, Free Markets and Free Software


*and whenever possible Free Beer
*"For as long as one of your brothers is not free, none of you are free"
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From petertheplumber at att.net  Sun May 23 14:12:40 2010
From: petertheplumber at att.net (Peter Bart)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 14:12:40 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Asus T91MT Ubuntu UNR 10.04 Multi Touch Help
Message-ID: <1274638360.8108.188.camel@plumber-notebook.site>

Hello Everyone,
	I'm trying to get the Asus's touchscreen working with multi touch. Ive
seen various howto's using Ubuntu UNR 9.10 and single touch. I will
revert to that if multi touch simply won't work. Since I'm not actually
using the Asus yet, I thought I'd give it a shot. Hope for the best and
maybe get to write a howto myself.
	The most promising and detailed instructions I've found are here
<http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/xorg.html>. I've got a fresh
install of UNR 10.04 on the Asus, with kernel source and headers. I've
partitioned it as follows: /=10gb, /boot=250mb, /swap=4gb on a memory
card inserted in the semi permanent slot, /home=the balance of the ssd.
According to the directions I need  kernel 2.6.31 or later, I have
2.6.32-22. According to the bottom of
<http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/linux-howto.html>, Ubuntu 10.04
is a 2.6.32 with some added support for multi touch. Basically, what was
added is the set of drivers that was available in 2.6.34-rc1. So that's
good, I don't need the drivers. The X.org version needs to be X11R7.5,
UNR 10.04 has 1:7.5+ubuntu1 (lucid), I think that meets the requirement?
Then I get the X.org evdev driver and multitouch management client. I
think <http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/xorg.html> is where I
start, then I move on to the Ubuntu 10.04 procedure at the bottom of
<http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/linux-howto.html>. Then I finish
at <http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/xorg-howto.html>. According
to Linux howto page, hid needs to be a module, not a static part of the
kernel. It goes on to say that if I
have /lib/modules/2.6.xxx/kernel/drivers/hid/hid.ko, hid is indeed a
module. So far so good; I think; because I
have /lib/modules/2.6.xxx/kernel/drivers/hid/hid.ko. This is where I'm
getting lost. The sentence: "In the following, '/' means the root of
your source tree and '//' the root of your file system." throws me. I'm
supposed to edit /include/linux/hid.h, I found it
at /usr/include/linux/hid.h. Is that the one I'm supposed to
edit? /usr/include/linux/hid.h does not have the lines I'm looking for.
I can't seem to quite wrap my head around the instructions:
"in /include/linux/hid.h, change the end of the macro
IS_INPUT_APPLICATION to (a >= 0xd0002 && a <= 0xd0006).
  * in our hid-core.c, take the lines that refer to your hardware (check
    for MOSART, QUANTA, STANTUM or 3M) and put them
    in /drivers/hid/hid-core.c, replacing lines if necessary." I can't
    find /drivers/hid/hid-core.c. I'm stuck, can someone help get me
    moving again?
-- 
Best Regards,

Peter The Plumber



From tony at bemushosting.com  Sun May 23 15:04:03 2010
From: tony at bemushosting.com (tony at bemushosting.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 15:04:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [mdlug] Mdlug.org,  is it working for anyone else?
Message-ID: <879114430.817420.1274641443241.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw08.schlund.de>

Mdlug.org,?is it working for anyone else?
?
I was trying to do some work on the server but wasn't able to connect.? Is the
website working for anyone?
?
?
Tony


From petertheplumber at att.net  Sun May 23 19:58:59 2010
From: petertheplumber at att.net (Peter Bart)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:58:59 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Mdlug.org,  is it working for anyone else?
In-Reply-To: <879114430.817420.1274641443241.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw08.schlund.de>
References: <879114430.817420.1274641443241.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw08.schlund.de>
Message-ID: <1274659139.4953.5.camel@plumber-notebook.site>

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 15:04 -0400, tony at bemushosting.com wrote:
> Mdlug.org, is it working for anyone else?
>  
> I was trying to do some work on the server but wasn't able to connect.  Is the
> website working for anyone?
>  
	I can see and browse the website. A post to the mailing list takes
several hours to show up.
-- 
Best Regards,

Peter The Plumber



From petertheplumber at att.net  Sun May 23 20:00:54 2010
From: petertheplumber at att.net (Peter Bart)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:00:54 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] Mdlug.org,  is it working for anyone else?
In-Reply-To: <1274659139.4953.5.camel@plumber-notebook.site>
References: <879114430.817420.1274641443241.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw08.schlund.de>
	<1274659139.4953.5.camel@plumber-notebook.site>
Message-ID: <1274659254.4953.6.camel@plumber-notebook.site>

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 19:58 -0400, Peter Bart wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 15:04 -0400, tony at bemushosting.com wrote:
> > Mdlug.org, is it working for anyone else?
> >  
> > I was trying to do some work on the server but wasn't able to connect.  Is the
> > website working for anyone?
> >  
> 	I can see and browse the website. A post to the mailing list takes
> several hours to show up.
	Ok, did take several hours to show up. Now almost instantly
-- 
Best Regards,

Peter The Plumber



From matthew at lechleider.com  Mon May 24 09:32:29 2010
From: matthew at lechleider.com (Matthew Lechleider)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:32:29 -0500
Subject: [mdlug] DrupalCamp Chicago 2010: June 26-27
Message-ID: <4BFA7FED.5060308@lechleider.com>

CDMUG is proud to present our 3rd annual DrupalCamp Chicago Saturday and 
Sunday, June 26th and 27th, 2010!

Register @ http://drupalcampchicago.org

Price: $40.00

Where/When:

University of Chicago Law School
1111 East 60th Street
Chicago, IL 60637-2776
Saturday, June 26th, 2010, 8 am - 5 pm
Sunday, June 27th, 2010, 8 am - 5 pm

Who/Why:

For almost 4 years the Chicago Drupal Meet Up Group has highlighted the 
benefits of an open source initiative. We have built resourceful bridges 
between Chicago and Mid-West establishments including non-profits, 
entrepreneurs, Drupal development companies, independent consultants, 
hobbyist, and more. The objective of DrupalCamp is to bring everyone 
together for open communication, education, industry networking, and 
most importantly fun.

What:

An attendee-driven format with advanced resources available makes this 
event unique. Need help with a problem, looking for work, or looking to 
hire Drupal talent? Find someone with a solution at DrupalCamp Chicago.
Multiple presentations addressing beginners through advanced developers 
will run simultaneously throughout both days. All skill levels are 
welcome and laptops are encouraged. Seating is limited, register now.

Speakers:

* Interested in presenting? Submit a session
* Highlight your Drupal knowledge to the mid-west
* Share your experience and contribute to the growth of Drupal

Register today @ http://drupalcampchicago.org !


Not able to make it to DrupalCamp? Don't worry, CDMUG has events every 
month. If new to Drupal, we encourage you to attend our free 
introduction to Drupal training each month. In addition, we have a 
regular meeting with presentations each month. RSVP for our next events 
@ http://drupal.meetup.com/1

- Matthew at Lechleider.com
CDMUG Organizer
http://cdmug.org
http://drupal.meetup.com/1
http://twitter.com/cdmug
http://groups.drupal.org/Chicago
http://drupalcampchicago.org



From mark.stanislav at gmail.com  Wed May 26 19:28:35 2010
From: mark.stanislav at gmail.com (Mark Stanislav)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 19:28:35 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] OT: Two positions open[ing] for local company;
	Linux Sys Admin and 	Help Desk
Message-ID: <AANLkTilG6XiApoZkJd_OxfU2rxkyzF74MQmatmqV9sPF@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I work for a digital promotions agency near Detroit and we currently
have one Linux Systems Admin position open as well as a technology
help desk spot. The hiring will be done through RHT but I can forward
all resumes directly to our main recruiter and skip some pain. Both
positions are full-time and are contract to hire. These are made to be
long-term; we are backfilling.

For the linux admin position, we're running into our interviewees not
being technical enough. We're looking for some decently seasoned (2+
years) Linux admins that understand questions such as "How does a TCP
conversation work?"; "What is an SPF record?"; "Explain the difference
between symmetric and asymmetric crypto."

Some of you may be scoffing, but I assure you we've had some
candidates who can't do these things, so I am reaching out to you fine
people hoping we can find a good fit and get someone from our
community a job!

The help desk technology spot is... well, it's a help desk job.

Please forward resumes to me and I will get them on to their path to
success. I can answer some basic questions off-list, but the rest
would have to be done by our company/recruiter. Just getting the word
out mostly.

Cheers.


From Stan at mcomputersolutions.com  Fri May 28 22:23:44 2010
From: Stan at mcomputersolutions.com (Stan Green)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 22:23:44 -0400
Subject: [mdlug] KMix Tray Icon
Message-ID: <201005282223.44707.Stan@mcomputersolutions.com>

I have used the KMix tray icon for a over a year to adjust and mute the volume 
on my KDE based Debin 5.x system. Recently, the icon stopped changing anything. 
It looks like it is working, but it does not change the volume or mute it. If I 
open KMix, then I can change the volume and mute it. This all is not a big 
deal, it just a little annoying. I cannot find any case on the internet of this 
happening. Does anyone know how the tray icon and KMix are connected and how 
the connection could have stopped working?

Thanks,
Stan


